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Avian Flu Puffs
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An article in the paper last week described a new explosives detection machine that they were testing out at the local air. It blows puffs of air at you as you walk through it and it's supposed to be sensitive enough to pick up trace chemicals left over from your adventures in bombmaking. It occurred to me that if the machine was this sensitive they might also be able to upgrade it so it can pick up trace amounts of pathogens, giving us a chance to stop the next pandemic (think SARS). The analysis wouldn't have to be instantaneous either. It would be useful if it could just complete the lab work before the plane landed, giving us a chance to isolate the passengers if any dangerous pathogens were found (say about an hour or so).

longshot9999, Apr 20 2005

Current state of the art http://www.ge.com/i...ntryscan/index.html
[longshot9999, Apr 21 2005]

Virus detector detects single particle http://www.indolink...fr020904-074024.php
Expect it to go into production 2008-2011. [st3f, Apr 22 2005]

Purdue University, 2004 http://www.7ms.com/...e/issue/scan08.html
Single particle filament. [st3f, Apr 22 2005]

2002. Patent awarded for size-based 'potential virus' detector http://www.rdecom.a...dex.htm#ecbc_patent
[st3f, Apr 22 2005]


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       See link for the most recent implementation of this technology.

longshot9999, Apr 21 2005
  

       Sounds like a great idea to me. [+]

contracts, Apr 21 2005
  

       I wonder how one of these machines might react to someone who just cooked some meth.

disbomber, Apr 22 2005
  

       Don't dogs excel at this sort of thing?

UnaBubba, Apr 22 2005
  

       <obligatory misreading> That's another breakfast cereal I won't be buying </om>   

       I remember seeing this machine (the one on [longshot]'s link) on "Tomorrow's World" about ten years ago. As it never appeared in airports I figured it may have been a hoax so it's nice to know it's real and looking for a buyer.

wagster, Apr 22 2005
  

       The trouble is that viruses are much larger (and therefore more complex) molecules than chemical explosives. (TNT has a mass of a little over 200 daltons, wheras your average virus will weigh in at 50+ kilodaltons).   

       That's not to say it's impossible, just more difficult. The key is in finding a small part of the virus that is uniquely identifiable. I'm guessing that you've probably hit on a subject area that is getting some heavy research; the reason why we haven't seen these things is that they're not yet possible rather than that nobody has thought of them.   

       [googles to see if there's any research published on the internet].

st3f, Apr 22 2005
  

       Overjoyed at the use of that oft-neglected unit of measurement - the dalton.

DenholmRicshaw, Apr 22 2005
  

       Instead of trying to identify individuals when boarding, why not monitor the air in the cabin during the flight? It is partly recirculated and (allegedly) accumulates all kinds of passenger- exuded pathogens during the flight.

So, run part of the cabin air through an adsorbent cartridge for the first few hours of the flight, then elute from the cartridge and run a PCR or rtPCR for likely viruses.

You wouldn't pinpoint the individual passenger, but in any case they'd be likely to have infected other passengers during the flight, so the whole lot would want isolating upon landing. Plus, you would be collecting much larger and more concentrated sample.

Basepair, Apr 22 2005
  


 
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