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Baby License

A new law that requires people wishing to have a baby to apply for a lisence prior to conception.
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This is really my wife's idea so I'm giving her the credit, I'm not the bad guy...

At birth all little boys would be given vasectomeys.(sp?) Once older and married, the couple could then fill out a government application to determine their parental worthiness. Upon approval, the vasectomy would be reversed. Criteria for approval: -One parent willing to stay at home. -Financial responsibility.(doesn't mean you have to be rich) -Must have a solid marraige.(may require evaluations) -No single people.(it has been proven that children who grow up without a father figure are more likely to go to jail) -No addictions to drugs or alcohol. This would eliminate unwanted pregnancys and stupid people procreating.

-My wife

usafnoah, Aug 16 2002

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       //One parent willing to stay at home//
So, if they both stay at home? They must just be welfare recipients.
//Must have a solid marraige.(may require evaluations)//
It seems to me that marriage is merely a contract. It's the relationship that counts
//No single people.(it has been proven that children who grow up without a father figure are more likely to go to jail)//
What about single fathers?
//No addictions to drugs or alcohol. This would eliminate unwanted pregnancys and stupid people procreating.//
It may surprise you to learn that a good number of highly functional members of society are addicted to one or more substances.
  

       You obviously didn't think too hard about this one. Sorry, make that your wife. The issue is a lot more complicated than the solution you have presented.   

       Applying simple solutions to complex problems is the premise of politicians and simpletons (if there is a diference).   

       One last thing.
//At birth all little boys would be given vasectomeys//
Last time I looked, it was females who bore children. If any mature female in your fantasy world were to copulate with one of the 'enabled' males then they are likely to fall pregnant.
  

       This idea needs a lot of work, not least to cease being a rant.
UnaBubba, Aug 17 2002
  

       And what if the "vasectomeys", as was the case with a dear friend of mine who had a vasectomy, proved irreversible? Then it would be not necessarily the qualified but the capable who would conceive (as has always been the case, but at least with natural selection we get lucky once in awhile). Not to mention the tension and anxiety inspired by worrying about whether or not one could conceive when the time came -- it can be difficult enough in so-called "normal" circumstances. FInally, I know some fine, wonderful, lovable, beautiful, very-good-indeed people who would never have come to be at all had a system like this been in place. I gave birth to two of them.
banshee, Aug 17 2002
  

       Fishbone. Marriage might not exist in certain societies in fifty years time so this idea is obsolete.
smokeyjohnson, Aug 17 2002
  

       //Must have a solid marraige.(may require evaluations)// - one event can break up a marriage, as far as I'm aware. no-one could predict that...
NickTheGreat, Aug 17 2002
  

       Bollocks, smokey. *when* marriage ceases to exist, perhaps. which, by the way, I do not see happening, perhaps ever.   

       But the point remains that marriage is not the only legal or valid partnership choice these days. My sister is a single mum, and her child (who has been staying with me this week) is far better brought up that most children I come into contact with. She's happy and secure, and extremely well loved (not to mention a little spoilt at times). There are a lot of other criteria here which I violently disagree with.   

       Also, when a vasectomy is reversed, there is a high likelyhood that the body will identify sperm (which it ain't used to) as poisonous antibodies. Normally, fertility treatment is needed - a considerable expense, and no guarantee.   

       Lastly, stupid people shouldn't be stopped from procreating (if I were cruel, I might say that's lucky for you and your wife), just bad parents.
yamahito, Aug 17 2002
  

       Isn't there something like this implemented in China? Maybe it's a one child limit. I don't remeber. Either way, that does sound kind of harsh, and overly pre-empted. I'm more for removing those who make themselves apparently worthess/stupid/annoying from the gene pool after they have done their transgressions (Dubya comes to mind...)
El Hefe, Aug 18 2002
  

       //Stupid people shouldn't be stopped from procreating//   

       True, but most of the really stupid people seem to remove themselves from the gene pool without much outside help, usually in the form of death or irreversible damage to their reproductive organs (car crash death, sports injury, drugs/alchohol, etc.).
Bert6322, Aug 18 2002
  

       This idea is right up there with the concept of having to licence dogs who usually remain in the home or yard, but allowing cats (who roam the neighbourhood freely) to be unlicenced.
ja5on, Aug 18 2002
  

       The intention is to limit the consequences of free-range filandering, a noble cause I suppose, having recently witnessed the consequences of poorly thought out trysts.   

       This is just a crappy way of going about it. People are all different. Who's to make the final decision about who's fit and who's not? Nobody's impartial, especially about other people, and this is an intrusive idea.
polartomato, Aug 19 2002
  

       Okay, so the idea was followed up poorly. If we take another look at it, maybe we can salvage this one.   

       For one thing, the idea of being licensed to procreate sounds kind of cool. Quiet dinner, flickering candlelight, soft music, satin sheets, scented massage oil, baby license. OK, I am ready!   

       And having new parents somewhat prepared for the changes about to happen to their world couldn't hurt. But I don't think we should allow the government to run this, though. You know how long it takes them to make a decision. You'd probably lose the ability before they gave the OK.   

       Uh-oh, I just had an evil thought - there would be dozens of people selling their baby licenses on Ebay, and counterfeiting rings would spring up, and unscrupulous government officials would deal in baby licenses under the table. Oh, the humanity!   

       In summary, I'd have to say no to the explanation, but give a thumbs-up to the intent (babies being born into better circumstances). It's just a fact of life that making babies (or trying to) is so much fun and so much easier than raising them.
Canuck, Aug 19 2002
  

       sex is way to eazy thats true. Didnt they invent AIDS? you rabbit's just dont know when to stop. Enron was a good way of birthcontrol. to much life=death 4 all REMEMBER THAT PLZ.
postseti, Aug 19 2002
  

       We could simply selectively remove the bonking gene, since it's possible with the spelling gene. Who knows... maybe we could eliminate a few other socially undesirable behaviours while we're at it?
UnaBubba, Aug 19 2002
  

       I'm interested in the sanctimonious gene, and whether it is found to correlate with the troll gene. It strikes me that sanctimony rarely keeps quiet. (I doubt the vice versa correlation will be found, since trollism is not always sanctimonious). Who would like to add their name to my grant application - we would be sending it to a sociology/anthropology society under their strategic project portfolio of modern society and remote communications...
sappho, Aug 19 2002
  

       While we're at it, could we remove the AOL gene?
angel, Aug 19 2002
  

       While we're dealing with the sanctimony gene, can we do away with the matrimony gene, the palimony gene, the parsimony gene... in fact we can probably dispense with all of the money genes. That should even things up !
UnaBubba, Aug 19 2002
  

       Great googly moogly. This is abhorrent.
Why all the little boys?
And unless this was somehow globally implemented, you and the wife'd be alll alone in Usafnoahtopia.
Most of all, have you _any_ idea how much flak you would recieve on your laughable 'criteria'? I'm the product of a fundamentally week marriage. Hell, my mom is abusive. So you're saying I shouldn't be? And one parent willing to stay home? Both of my parents work. It's in their nature. They couldn't bear to simple rot away at home.
If there was a way to fishbone this idea twice, I would.
watermelancholy, Aug 19 2002
  

       When I read the title, I was thinking, hmm... maybe a nice way to stop children being brought into harmful surroundings, let's read on.   

       It was all so very downhill from there. Marriage? Two-parent-families only? Costly "vasectomeys" for every male child? And who provides the finance to operate on 50% of all children born?   

       Why not just apply for a 'suitable parent license', where you take something similar to a driving test to determine whether or not you're responsible enough to raise a child. I was going to put that idea in by itself, but it's too similar to yours. Your wife's, sorry.   

       Anyway, it's not halfbaked, you forgot to put it in the oven. Fishbone.
bookends, Jun 06 2005
  

       - Oh, God.
Adze, Jun 06 2005
  
      
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