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Every long weekend a saganistic number of beer cans & bottles gets left in public parks, bottom of lakes, etc.
The Beer Bag is available in cases of 12 or 24oz sizes: as you may guess they're plastic bags full of beer, thick enough to withstand some rough handling. Simply snip and end and pour into
your favourite mug or insert the entire bag into our insulated beerbag mug.
Environmentally conscientious beer-drinkers stuff the empties into their backpack if they're deep in the woods, or if closer to home, into a back pocket, and return them to the beer store for the 5c each deposit.
People with more casual attitudes will end up tossing them on the bonfire where they will pollute the air; still preferable to empties laying around.
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"...a saganistic number..."
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I dunno man, it's pretty easy to pour beer into a camelback*, and likewise, cardboard box and plastic bag cases are sold at Triple Rock in Berkeley. Actually they contain more then 12oz.... I think they hold about 5-6 pints each. |
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And this is where you get the bone. If I had to bring 12 12oz plastic bags into a forest, I'd throw them everywhere out of anger that plastic has superseded metal and glass. I don't want to feel cheap when I drink beer. I want to drink out of a can. Which can be meltable in a bonfire, it just takes a little more effort and concentration. |
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Also, nobody will put a wet beer bag in their back pocket. |
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* this makes alcoholism seem athletic. |
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[mylodon] easier to get up in the morning and stuff a bunch of wet baggies into another baggie, than to wander around trying to find all the empties that aren't broken to haul back to civilization. |
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This is baked, but with sports drinks. I helped install a bottler for these bags with a spout, but I can't remember what the brand was that was being filled. |
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Beer Sack: A specially designed sleeping bag that fully encloses the beer drinker. The empties collect inside the bag. |
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This was Baked - experimentally - in the UK in the 1970's. Beer was packaged in polythene tubing, heatsealed at each end of the pack, with a tear off plastic strip in place of the ring-pull. |
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Not sure what happened to the idea, but the beer tased OK. |
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"Not sure what happened to the idea, but the beer tased OK."
"Don't tase me, brew!" |
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Why not get a bang out of your disposable beer container! If instead of a bag, create a container made of nitrocellulose (flash paper, gun cotton, lacquers). |
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If you want to try it out at home, typical ping pong balls are made of nitrocellulose. Punch a hole in one, fill it with beer, and seal it. Later, after drinking the beer of course, put a match to the empty container and poof; it’s gone in a flash. If you like warm beer, just don’t let it get above 100 degrees C. |
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Depending on the alcohol content of the beer, the flash may not be as quick as flash paper because alcohol will act as a damping agent thus lowering it’s burn rate. I’m not sure how long it will hold beer since nitrocellulose is slightly soluble in alcohol. This calls for a test. |
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Although it might be a mild irritant to some, it is eco friendly in that it’s by products are nitrogen and carbon. I think it will happily ignite while still containing the beer but since beer doesn’t burn, beer would act to extinguish the flames. Naturally, some of those at the bottom of the gene pool will attempt to light one full of beer while it is in their mouth and thereby further cleanse the gene pool. As I said, 'eco friendly!' |
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I'm with Mylodon. We just make a campfire hot enough to completely consume the used aluminium cans. I remember one campfire that was so hot that the flames were mostly blue. You couldn't get within 8 feet of it for the heat. We were throwing in ally cans, and they were gone in under 20 seconds. poof! I basically spent all night dragging dead trees over to it to keep the fire going that hot. Gives you something to do as well. |
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Unless you like your beer flat, this won't work very well. For a large beer container, as it empties, the pressure drops, and the product is flat beer. Kegs work because you pump CO2 in to replace the lost volume of beer. Your bladder (no, the proposed "beer bladder", not your personal, inside one) will need to a) be able to withstand the pressure of good, bubbly beer, b) have a good enough valve to re-seal as you're pouring out of it, and c) start with enough air-gap in the top so as to hold pressure and not completely flatten the beer as the liquid level drops (the pressure will obviously keep the bladder inflated - so as the beer gets poured out over your drinking session, CO2 will come out of solution to equalise pressure. Resulting in flat beer. If you start with only 60% beer or so, at a slightly higher pressure than normal, you might be able to balance it so the beer's not too flat by the end. maybe. |
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If you can solve the above, I'm all for it. |
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Were the cans burning or just melting? |
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[custard] the post proposes 12 and 24 oz sizes (ie: standard single-servings), not beachball-sized bags full of beer; that was somebody else. |
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Ah. Prehistoric units of measurement confound and confuse me. |
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As to the cans in the fire, we never really worked it out. I think that is was too slow for actual self-sustained combustion, knowing how energetic the oxidation of aluminium is. But, having seen aluminium cans consumed by a fire before, and how they seem to slowly turn to a thin grey ash before disintegrating, I think it was predominantly accelerated oxidation. I'd assume the word burning refers to a self-sustaining reaction, which I'm sure this wasn't - I reckon the heat of the fire made 'em oxidise to nothing quickly, perhaps without a local flame front. They defninitely didn't melt and run. |
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