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Chocolate Toothpaste
Mmm-Mmm! Your breath! It's all minty, and chocolatey...
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Brown toothpaste may not sound too appetising, but bear with me.

A toothpaste where the abrasive was finely ground cacao seed shells, the paste a mix of stabilised cocoa butter and cocoa powder and all delivered in small, soft, artificially sweetened pastilles would be a winner, I'm sure.

Of course, this toothpaste even comes in a range of After Dinner Mint flavours, and is just loaded with antioxidants and the requisite fluoride.

You'll never want to spit your toothpaste out, again.


UnaBubba, Jun 19 2006

Chocolate toothpaste, the theory http://www.bbc.co.u...te/goodforyou.shtml
Choco toothtaste would be good for you! [kuupuuluu, Jun 22 2006]

Chocolate flavoured toothpaste http://www.strangen...ate-toothpaste.html
Only choco flavoured, not made from [kuupuuluu, Jun 22 2006]

apparently it's more baked than we thought http://www.toothpasteworld.com/
[xandram, Jun 22 2006]

Sparki baked it here at the halfbakery, too More_20Flavors_20of_20Toothpaste
sorry, this one is only choc. flavoured. [xandram, Jun 22 2006]

just one more....#25-Bitter Chocolate http://www.beautyex...aste&OVMTC=standard
[xandram, Jun 22 2006]

fluoride pills for phlish http://www.sptimes...._pills_provid.shtml
[xandram, Jun 22 2006]

NZ MOH http://www.newhealt...ealth/fluorides.htm
Seemingly independent studies on use of fluoride [methinksnot, Jun 22 2006]

FAQs on fluoride http://www.westcoas.../oralhealth/faq.asp
[methinksnot, Jun 22 2006]

Yikes! http://www.fluoride...ccidents/acute.html
[2 fries shy of a happy meal, Jun 23 2006]

32 flavours http://breathpalette.com/
[po, Jun 27 2006]

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       Ewie!

Galbinus_Caeli, Jun 20 2006
  

       Is that a good Ewie!, or a bad Ewie!, [GC]?

UnaBubba, Jun 21 2006
  

       + for anything that makes kids want to brush longer.   

       There is such a thing as a GOOD ewie?   

       Chocolate toothpaste? I shudder at the thought. (and not in a good way.)

Galbinus_Caeli, Jun 21 2006
  

       Chocolate doesnt casue decay, sugar does. This would be artificially sweetened.

lowbot, Jun 21 2006
  

       If sweetened at all, it would be artificial. I deliberately kept sugar out of the mix for that reason. Toothpaste is just an abrasive, an emollient, a foaming agent, some scent and a sweetener. In this case I have used organic chocolate byproducts instead of limestone, vegetable gum and menthol.   

       Swallowing toothpaste is not harmful, [phlish]. I was married to a dentist for 5 years, and we often discussed the beneficial effects of it, especially in areas where governments don't add fluoride to water supplies. In many places, swallowing toothpaste is the only chance many kids get to protect against caries (tooth decay).

UnaBubba, Jun 21 2006
  

       [+] Sound idea. See first link for supporting theory.

kuupuuluu, Jun 22 2006
  

       I thought the fluoride acted directly on teeth, not post-swallowing?

GutPunchLullabies, Jun 22 2006
  

       (Checks internet)   

       Huh. Apparently it is important internally while teeth are forming. Who knew.

GutPunchLullabies, Jun 22 2006
  

       [phlish] fluoride DOES come in pills [link]

xandram, Jun 22 2006
  

       good lord, UB married to a dentist - that's one scary combination.

po, Jun 22 2006
  

       The effectiveness of fluoride as a benefit to the teeth should be questioned. There is very little /unbiased/ research data available to support the claims of the companies who sell it and who would otherwise have to pay for its disposal as a toxic waste. An independent study comparing dental health rates in a significant population with and without fluoride would be very interesting to find.   

       Before you call me paranoid, please notice what I did and did not actually say? Thank you.   

       The idea however, is pure brilliance. My wife would buy it without question.

James Newton, Jun 22 2006
  

       And what have you against dentists?
My dentist is sweet and kind and gentle, a very good listener, compassionate, honest and very good looking.
  

       I'll see if I can dig out a study carried out for the New Zealand's Ministry of Health on the decay prevalence among school-aged children. It splits the results by area (there are some areas in NZ that do not add fluoride to their water).   

       <Later...>Couldn't find it but have linked to a similar one for your reading pleasure.

methinksnot, Jun 22 2006
  

       White toothpaste is bad enough when you drop it on the carpet or your shirt/trousers - Brown toothpaste'd be too embarrassing!

Dub, Jun 22 2006
  

       So James, you're not paranoid, you're just paranoid about being paranoid? Or simply hypervigilant just to make sure you haven't said anything. Sorry that was too inviting to ignore...

RayfordSteele, Jun 22 2006
  

       //There is a warning on the friggin tube that says as much//   

       There are also warnings on chainsaws, to the effect you shouldn't try to stop the blade with your hands. No shit, eh? I take it you live in the US, where everything has a warning label on it, in case you misuse it?   

       If it wasn't safe to swallow it there is no way it would be recommended you put the fucking stuff in your mouth. Wake up to yourself, son. You're showing about as much clue as a chicken in a thunderstorm. If there's no benefit to swallowing fluoride then why is water fluoridated?   

       I saw a survey last week that indicated the cost to residents in Brisbane, Australia, was around $25M per year in extra dental costs, for a population of 1 million, because our municipal authority can't get their shit together and fluoridate the local water supply. Do you think it's a coincidence that dentists in Brisbane are sending mixed messages about the benefits of fluoride? They have a $25M vested interest in maintaining the status quo.   

       As for warnings, I seem to recall a study that indicated that the fur on moths' wings was carcinogenic, and would result in a 1% chance of cancer if you ate 10 kilograms of it. Firstly, I'm not sure how you establish the base research to determine that. Secondly, I'm not sure how many moths you'd have to shave, to get 10kg of moth fur.

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       eat them whole, silly, the rest is protein and calcium. mmmm

po, Jun 23 2006
  

       // Brown toothpaste'd be too embarrassing!//
Then I guess it'd be white chocolate for you eh?
  

       When my brother and I were kids some of our friends would swallow toothpaste because it would give them a fever and they could play hooky. You really shouldn't swallow the stuff. It is very easy to exceed toxicity levels. [link]   

       Sorry, but toxicity levels are 15 to 50 times greater than eating a substantial portion of a tube of toothpaste. I'd be surprised if anyone was sufficiently determined to eat half a tube of toothpaste.   

       I note there is also a difference in the quantity of fluoride in adult toothpaste, compared to children's toothpaste. There also appear to be differences between countries.   

       Fluoride gives rise to some very emotional debates, largely based on scaremongering and plain bullshit. Just because everyone "knows" something, does not mean it is true. Urban legends are all around us.

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       //Fluoride gives rise to some very emotional debates, largely based on scaremongering and plain bullshit. Just because everyone "knows" something, does not mean it is true. Urban legends are all around us.//   

       True, but it does not change the fact that we should be able to choose what to beleive and hence whether to ingest fluoride or not. Putting fluoride in the water supply takes away this freedom to choose.

webfishrune, Jun 23 2006
  

       True. Perhaps we should arrange to ensure your water is not treated with chlorine, without your written permission?   

       Don't allow any members of your family to fall ill. Prayer doesn't cure acute illness.   

       And another thing... Don't you just hate how they put oxygen in the air without your permission?   

       I've about had it to the back teeth with redneck fudamentalists who insist they have some divine right to subvert public health initiatives, to the detriment of everyone else. Their bleating then becomes some sort of mantra for the disaffected and tabloid journalists. They're the same lot who would have us believe that children's vaccines are responsible for cerebral palsy.   

       Meanwhile, we have a sensible effort by medical professionals to better the lot of all, brought into question by half-educated cretins, and their baseless persecution theories.

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       //True. Perhaps we should arrange to ensure your water is not treated with chlorine, without your written permission?//   

       Chlorination, provides a provable benefit that outweighs its risk. This is still debatable with fluoride. Chlorination is about keeping our water supply safe to drink. Fluoridation is about dental health. One of these issues is clearly much more pressing than the other. Personally I remove the cholrine (actually, a lot of the time chloramine (sp?), not chlorine) using filtration which removes the risk of ingestion more-or-less entirely. Fluoride removal is supposedly harder. There has also been more debate as to the risks of fluoride than that of chlorine at the levels it is present at in water.   

       //And another thing... Don't you just hate how they put oxygen in the air without your permission?//   

       Last time I checked, "they" do not put oxygen in the air, it is present naturally as a requirement for life. I have also not seen anyone touting the harmful effects of oxygen.

webfishrune, Jun 23 2006
  

       //Meanwhile, we have a sensible effort by medical professionals to better the lot of all, brought into question by half-educated cretins, and their baseless persecution theories.//   

       In essence, I do agree with you, however:   

       So are you saying that anyone who enters into debate is half-educated and not professional? This is clearly wrong. Many well-educated medical professionals also have opinions on these issues.   

       Personally, I do not worry overly much about flouridation and the main reason I remove chlorine is for taste reasons not health reasons. However, everyone has a right to express their concern or their opinion as long as they do not claim they are an authority on the issue if they are not.   

       The public does have a right to have some influence on public health initiatives, after all the word "public" is in the title.   

       Are you suggesting that governments should decide what happens and everyone else should shut up and get on with it? This sounds a lot like a dictatorship to me. Even though we might not like some of the opinions and theories that are bandied about, some of which appear to be almost awe-inspiringly stupid, people still have the right to hold these opinions, to debate them if they so wish and to have some influence on policies that effect their lives. Hopefully these debates will drive the authorities to embark on proper reasearch to answer the questions raised once and for all. This can only be a good thing.

webfishrune, Jun 23 2006
  

       Can it be 80% cocoa bean type chocolate? +

xenzag, Jun 23 2006
  

       That's exactly what I intended. I don't eat the sweet, gooey chocolate. I'm diabetic, so I tend to avoid sugary foods as much as I can.   

       I like the argument you put, [webfishrune]. I am concerned that the dingalings propounding these nonsensical half-theories refuse to listen to the good research and informed, rational decisions... choosing instead to bleat their bullshit from the rooftops.   

       It's the same thinking that gave us "Intelligent Design".

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       In that case, I think we agree completely ;-)

webfishrune, Jun 23 2006
  

       So they don't get cold.   

       It's just a convention, [phlish].

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       Oh, common [UB], you're taking it too far... since when is this adding tastiness to pharmaceutical products such a trend? I remember that idea you posted some time ago about tasty children's medicine, and i guess it was ok… but, toothpaste? It's supposed do be fresh and minty and pure-colored. The thing you are trying to impose is… Nope. Sorry. I can't fight it anymore.   

       I'll have a Milky Way tooth paste please.

sweet, Jun 23 2006
  

       [phlish] //why do people put brackets around names?// so they don't fall off .......

xenzag, Jun 23 2006
  

       You people argue too much. Im off to brush my teeth with a good Snickers bar... or maybe a milkbone...

MoreCowbell, Jun 23 2006
  

       ah! its still You, not us - Yet(i)!

po, Jun 23 2006
  

       It's pretty easy to pick which 'bakers have never tasted real dark chocolate. Chocolate makes the most amazing Espresso shots.

UnaBubba, Jun 23 2006
  

       far from being right on that one. I always have my Espresso with chocolate, and if i buy chocolate, it's min. 85% dark. But if it't tooth paste, let it be milky way.

sweet, Jun 25 2006
  
      
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