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Clumpy shot
Highly magnetised shot for a shotgun catridge
 
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To help control scatter pattern of shot in firing line cone . Also as experiment information for wave versus particle physics ideas .

My reasoning I'm trying to get my mind ( my vacuous reprogrammable neurons ) around the gap between molecules and atoms in the various spaces and materials .

energy needs mass (subunit , medium, whatever) to exist , mass can to take or leave energy because mass has existence . A wave can imitate a particle but a particle can't imitate a wave . A group of particles can imitate a wave .

The only difference between a wave and a particle is the cohesion between 'mass' . A particle is a quanta solid fixed structure (a single ball shot) and a wave is (?) well either a 'sometimes cohesive' grouping of mass ( a magnetic connected group of ball shots ) or the flexing of ridgid structure ( heat travelling thru a cold iron bar ) . Maybe light's speed is because of either light's medium structure or lights cohesion to bits pasted in travel .

Would a good experiment be to shoot magnetic shot through a high magnetic field , on a rifle range where the sides of the range were also magnetic ? Abit like electron experiments but macro scale .

Nothing is nothing right ? Am I way of base ? more experiments can't hurt right ?


wjt, Oct 04 2003

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       Although controlling shotgun pattern density is a nice concept, magnetizing shot is unlikely to improve patterning. Three reasons:   

       (1) Magnets have north and south 'poles'. Although it's possible for magnets to have many north and south poles in near proximity (things like stepper motors work on that principle) the pellets in a shotshell would have a random mixture of attraction and repulsion.   

       (2) Most magnetic materials lose their magnetism when subjected to severe mechanical shock. I would think being fired from a gun would qualify as severe mechanical shock even if one tried to use a compressible wad.   

       (3) Even if one could produce shot which would all attract each other magnetically, the fact that magnetism falls off rapidly with distance while the air-friction forces pushing shot apart would increase rapidly with distance would end up meaning that the shot would stay as a lump for some random amount of time before separating. This would result in patterns with a fairly random amount of spreading.

supercat, Oct 04 2003
  

       ...and the connection between shotgun scatter patterns and the wave-particle duality is...?

hippo, Oct 04 2003
  

       I think the clumpiest shotgun projectile of all is the rifled slug.

bristolz, Oct 04 2003
  

       True, and the components of said slug *are* held together by electromagnetic forces...

yamahito, Oct 04 2003
  

       My thinking was - a wave is a group of specially linked particles hence a group of magnetic shot . The group is both a wave and a particle .   

       If the gun is fired at a sign post , then shot that missed would still be effected (magnetically) by shot in the post and shot that on the other side .   

       (1) if the magnetic shot had faces then each geometric shape could be packed as experimentally desired . (2) low heat , slow acting explosive (3) accepted , water medium ?

wjt, Oct 05 2003
  

       1. Magnetic forces are not sufficiently strong for the purpose of this sort of experiment. They are insignificant, compared to the forces used to move the shot.   

       2. Wave-Particle duality is not explicable in macro terms. The physics are entirely different, relating not to quanta (insofar as that term is used to explain atomic and subatomic physics), rather to objects whose movement is best described in Newtonian terms..   

       3. There is no waveform motion to be had in the movement of an object driven by a single force vector, as described in the idea text.   

       Why the author insists on posting what appear to be conundra specific to him/her, is beyond me. [wjt], please read the help file and stop cluttering the place up with questions posed in broken English.

UnaBubba, Oct 05 2003
  

       Slugs. Not garden variety slugs, but shotgun slugs.

thumbwax, Oct 06 2003
  

       the Magnetic shot idea , has been shot .   

       Trillions of macro physical interactions on the planet , and none to help explain wave particle duality .

wjt, Oct 06 2003
  

       "1. Magnetic forces are not sufficiently strong for the purpose of this sort of experiment."
This was my argument in [Vernon]'s "Earth-Space Web" idea.

phoenix, Oct 06 2003
  

       Exactly. Shotgun pellets travel at velocities around 1100-1400 fps, which is way too fast for magnetic forces to act upon them, appreciably, over their distance of travel. The action is there, but the deflection is too minuscule to notice.

UnaBubba, Oct 06 2003
  

       I'm interested in the eddy currents created in the gun by a fast-moving magnetic lug through it's barrel. I believe it would act to slow the bullet down.

RayfordSteele, Oct 08 2003
  

       Instead of magnets, the shot should be pierced and strung together on nylong monofilament. This would hold them together well. If the two ends of monofilament were connected, this would also be useful for Mardi Gras parades.   

       //more experiments can't hurt right// But they can kick the poo out of wrong.

bungston, Oct 08 2003
  
      
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