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This idea is very similar to another idea in the same category. It was not inspired by the other idea, however, rather I thought of it myself and found the other idea when I was searching for prior art.There are some noteable differences, however, in how the product is made, what it is used for, and
how effective it is. I think these differences are sufficient (sp?) to warrant a posting of its own.
Let me first say this idea is intended to prevent one's gun collection from being stolen and used against the owner or in any other crime, and to take away the criminal's ability to repeat the crime.
These are bullets (sold in specially marked boxes and only to licensed buyers) which you store in your firearms while they are locked up. They are available in any caliber. They are made by many different manufacturers, like Remington, Federal, Winchester, etc.They look exactly like any other bullet of that caliber made by the same company (except for one small, barely noticeable misspelling in the manufacturer's name on the butt of the shell casing, for identification).
The bullet is welded into the shell casing, so when the primer is struck and the powder ignited, the bullet isn't going anywhere.
In the event an unsuspecting thief steals your firearms, the thief will simply think he's gotten lucky when he/she finds the weapon loaded. Upon firing the ammunition (from any weapon) the round will explode in the chamber, certainly destroying the weapon, and hopefully maiming the shooter so he/she can never fire a weapon again.
I realize there are some potential drawbacks to this idea. After a while, thieves may decide it's safer to simply dispose of any rounds they find in the guns they've stolen. But by the time knowledge of this becomes widespread, think of how many criminals you've already taken out and it was worth it. That, and there are always thieves who get caught red-handed by well-known methods because they didn't get the memo or they're just plain idiots. Also, it prevents somebody from using one of your own weapons against you in the heat of the moment, for instance if you and a friend are in your basement looking at your collection and get into an argument/fight and your 'friend' tries to kill you with one of your guns (this has actually happened many times).
There is also a potential for owners getting ammunition mixed up and hurting themselves. They'd have to be morons to do that, though, and therefore deserve it.
The worst drawback I see with my idea is that the gun's owner doesn't get the gun back. I think it's a small price to pay for public safety. After all, you should've made sure it was locked up sufficiently to prevent the theft in the first place.
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Roughly what percentage of unauthorized gun use, you figure, are curious children drawn to do something their parents are trying to prevent them from doing, but which will garner them major street cred from their peers? |
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Shoot this idea down. The potential for disaster to the wrong person/s outweighs the ha-ha-injury appeal. |
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I think it'd be safer for everyone to load the gun with rubber bullets rather than exploding bullets. |
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//They'd have to be morons to do that,
though, and therefore deserve it.//
Interesting concept - remove someone's
hand or eye as a punishment for absent-
mindendness. Must make a note of that
one. |
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Yeah, I think you'll the find the 'absent-minded' lobby is very powerful on this site. <scratching head>Now, how was I going to vote? </scratching head> |
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Please, consider a few things before posting such comments: |
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1) Do you really want an absent-minded person handling a firearm anywhere near you or your children? Absent-mindedness has no place anywhere near a loaded firearm, and any person who is handling a firearm should know what he/she is loading it with. If you choose to fire a weapon without knowing what's in it, you deserve what you get. |
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2) In response to Max's anno: If you're handling a firearm, you're supposed to be wearing eye protection, so the part about losing an eye is bullshit. |
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3) If a child gets his/her hands on a weapon and takes a mind to load it, would you rather the child lose a hand or his life? Or possibly take the lives of several of his/her friends or schoolmates? |
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4) You're supposed to keep the gun locked up anyway, which I said in the original post. If it's well-secured in the first place, no child should be able to get ahold of it. The idea is not to relax your security in the hopes that somebody steals your gun collection, rather it's an ADDED line of defense. |
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5) Simply leaving the gun unloaded poses more of a risk, because there's a better than 50/50 chance of the thief loading it with live ammunition, or your child grabbing one of your boxes of real ammo and loading it with that, which is a threat to anybody the gun is pointed at. If it's already loaded with this new product, there's a much higher chance of successfully limiting the amount of damage caused. |
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[certainly destroying the weapon, and hopefully maiming the shooter so he/she can never fire a weapon again] |
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That's an uncertain certainly, and a cruel hopefully. I think at it's heart, this idea is about blood and cruelty. |
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Can't help you with the "child getting it's hands on a gun" issue. In my family, we resolve that by training the young ones to use guns safely and responsibly at an early age. This eliminates the "curiosity about the forbidden" factor. |
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//If you're handling a firearm, you're
supposed to be wearing eye
protection// I wouldn't know, that's
true. I didn't realize that all "legitimate"
gun users always don eye protectors. I
must have missed this. |
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Look, personally, I am not comfortable
with idea of guns being generally
available because I come from a
relatively gun-free society. But, even
from that perspective, I think that an
idea that says "let's booby-trap guns to
make them maim people" (your word,
not mine, btw) is just silly. |
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"so the part about losing an eye is bullshit." |
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Oh really. Do you have any idea how weak most eye-protection glasses really are? If anything around the breech gets hit hard enough to undergo brittle failure, you can kiss whatever the shrapnell hits goodbye, glasses or no glasses. |
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PPE is for risk reduction, and should never be considered a genuine risk eliminator. |
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Why so aggressive? It's a cruel, dangerous, and in my opinion badly thought-out idea that is bound to receive some polite criticism. Swearing at people doesn't do you any favours. |
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I agree, go back to the drawing board and give us a bullet that welds itself into the chamber instead. And then maybe goes "Ha-ha". |
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Now, if you could make the bullet phone home with it's GPS coordinates, I'd buy a box no matter what the cost. |
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Not only is it simlar to my idear (but what ever you explaned that) but the idear that a loaded gun could go off when you carry it maming you, but mix ups would be commonplace and dangerous, Not great, keep bake'n new idears through! you might hit a gem! |
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This idea is bad and probably illegal at least in USA. I know lots of people have been arrested for booby trapping roof access hatches, etc. to believe that this would be subject to similar lawsuits. So now the guy who stole your gun will steal your house. Second, why are the guns left loaded? They should be unloaded and in a safe and preferably the firing pins should be removed. |
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If you want to do this, you should sabotage the firing pin to weld itself in place. Put in a fake round that when fired, it ignites a small thermite charge that welds the pin to the bullet. Make the bullet a “hollow point”, so you can vent the gas out the nose of the bullet. So if the gun is stolen and “fired” using the “sabo” round, the gun will not fire anything, just get hot, smoke a little and become useless without hurting anyone. |
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I think you've hit upon the appropriate means to achieve the alleged end of this idea. That, and have it call your cellphone. |
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