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Should be simple enough to do with a weensy program that alters the input from the keyboard. |
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One of several irrationalities in the standard keyboard. Similarly, do you use the forward slash (/) more than the question mark/ |
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Or why is it that the rarely required hash mark gets a spot of its own but the exclamation mark requires the use of shift? Or the square bracket & the ampersand? |
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I use = more than I use +. I'd dislike having to press shift to use the = symbol. |
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Yeah, me too. I rarely use + but use = a lot. |
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I wouldn't mind if @ were unshifted, though. |
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Ah, keyboards... how quaint. |
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I mostly use handwriting recognition, saves all these types of problems. |
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(just realised - 'types' of problems - ha ha ha, whatever) |
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(As an aside, the voice recognition I have doesn't like my voice. Must be designed for a nasal American drawl...) |
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Using ink (handwriting recognition) for as much writing as I do is a flatout nightmare. |
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Baked: All it took me was a screw driver to pop that sucker off and flip it around - duh. |
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I do a bit of coding. During such activity, I most definitely use = and / much more than + and ?. |
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// Similarly, do you use the forward slash (/) more than the question mark/ // Good point. |
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[=] Far more sensible - You use + far more than = in any equation.(Which, I guess, it's called "An Equation")! |
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I'm pretty certain it's not too difficult to write your own keyboard map... I'll have a look in the morning. |
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Baked: Its called a Dvorak keyboard. |
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Uh, last time I checked, = was unshifted and + was shifted in the Dvorak Keyboard...same as QWERTY... unless I'm using some really screwed version of Dvorak. |
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You're reluctant to give a croissant? |
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I thought this would be about swapping the meaning of = and +, e.g. 3=4+7. That would be pointless and confuse everyone and therefore be much more fun. |
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You know that numeric keypad thing, off to the right edge of the keyboard?... |
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...has no equals button. Why not? |
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Use a freeware program called KeyTweak. it remaps your keyboard anyway you want. You might find something even faster than Dvorak. |
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I drive a 5 speed and have to /shift /all the time. |
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I looked into KeyTweak, thinking I could bone this as baked. However, keyTweak remaps entire keys, including their shifted states. So if you remap [/], [?] goes along with it. |
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// [=] Far more sensible - You use + far more than = in any equation.(Which, I guess, it's called "An Equation")! //
Hey look at that. I just used [/] four times, and I haven't used [?] once yet.
I use [=] at least once in every equation. I frequently create equations without any use of [+]. Examples:
4 * 2 = 8
2^4=16
12/3=4
I could go on. I use [=] at least as much as [+]. |
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Speaking of shift key problems, I've been noticing how many people here make bracket pairs like this: [}. Shift keys don't mix well with fast typing. |
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//...has no equals button. Why not?// No idea - seems like quite an oversight. I always end up putting my left index finger on the = while working in excel, with my right hand bouncing from the keypad to the mouse. Of course getting back and forth from the = to the Tab is a problem so I use the arrow keys instead. |
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f'rinstance: I was just working on some code in a ~1300 line stored procedure. In that procedure I used "=" 587 times and I used "+" 150 times. Seems like there's a clear winner. |
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That particular procedure does a lot more string concatenation than I normally do, so the "+" count is probably higher than my usual. |
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[Wagster] I wouldn't mind a key that produced matching brackets, then moved the cursor between them. Sort of OS-based keyboard macros. |
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//...has no equals button. Why not?// |
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Numeric pads were originally designed with pocket calculator-type functionality in mind, rather than for programming needs. The 'enter' button was intended to provide the same function as equals would on a pocket calculator (i.e. working as a 'submit calculation' button). |
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[=] is needed for when an idea is so bad you've got to "minus" it twice. |
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I suspect it may have something to do with computer programmers inventing the modern keyboard, who use [=] a lot, often for purposes not exactly related to equations. Ditto the issue with [?] and [/]. On the other hand, that would also suggest that [<] and [>] should be un-shifted, but I guess periods and commas are so common that even the programmers had to grant their easier usage. For that matter, though, even in code I use ["] more than ['], so that one should be switched too. |
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Frankly, it's all just irrational. I'd like to buy a TypeMatrix keyboard, which has a totally new layout for the keys, but it's expensive. A chording keyboard or two would be cool too. |
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As to why the numeric keypad has no equals sign, it's because the numpad isn't intended to write prose with--you're supposed to type an equation, hit "enter", and get a result back from whatever program you're running. Or, alternatively, move to the next cell of the spreadsheet you are working on. That way if you're entering a bunch of numerical data, you can just flail one hand on the numpad instead of reaching for the normal [enter] key all the time. |
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TypeMatrix layout is marginally different from QWERTY. I wouldn't call it a totally new layout. It certainly doesn't address the keys mentioned in this idea. |
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// Or, alternatively, move to the next cell of the spreadsheet you are working on.// |
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Perhaps it's Excel to blame, but you need the = sign to do anything useful with numbers. |
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I haven't heard of TypeMatrix, but I'm picturing a keyboard with 9 or 24 keys that you press in dot-matrix-like patterns. |
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[Worldgineer] - something like this, perhaps <link> |
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I'm curious if = outnumbering + in a program is a complete anomoly or if I rely on counters too much. |
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Hell. I did a quick sample & I am completely wrong (at least in my own programming). = far outnumbered + |
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I like both + & = but rarely use either the
` or ~ on the key at the other end of the
number row. Why not swap ` with + so
both + and = can be hit unshifted and `
would be closer to the ' and " key. |
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But there's no requirement to use shift at all to type = or +. The = is unshifted from the top row, and the + is unshifted from the numeric pad. I just typed both and the only use of shift was to begin each sentence. |
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Maybe on your fancy 'normal' keyboard [Ian]. This one has no numeric pad. |
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[Freefall], I'm sure that I use sentences with questions at least 4 times as much as quotations. |
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Also it should be pointed out that the summary line does specify that this is for halfbakers. I can see very little need for an [=] here. |
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Also, this just reminded me. One computer I used for a short period had the " and the @ mixed up, but only on the halfbakery. Never figured out why. |
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Ah, so you're inventing a 'normal' keyboard. Sounds good, should work, never been done before. |
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