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Gay & Lesbian Pan-Historical Speculative Fiction

Men and women grow into separate civilizations
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Set some time in the past. Heterosexuality has either been (inadvertantly) bred out or otherwise disappeared somehow. Simultaneously male couples and female couples gain the ability to produce offspring. The key sexual element of the bond between men and women which draws them to live together disappears, and men and women gradually migrate and form separate civilizations. (Nations of mostly or exclusively men, nations of exclusively lesbians.) Book uses multiple characters jumping from years, to decades, to centuries, to millenia after the "event." Follows course of societal evolution and relationship between and divergence of the new male and female civilizations and the new relationships between individuals. Eventually ends a million years+ in the future when men and women have evolved into separate species of humans incapable of even theoretically reproducing together.
TParis23, Dec 27 2004

Amzonians unite! http://uk.gay.com/printit/692
[2 fries shy of a happy meal, Dec 28 2004]

Space lizard http://www.dreamspe...rt/kids/BW/sass.GIF
....unable to find a lizard using a vibrator..... [normzone, Dec 28 2004]

Charlotte Gilman: Herland http://etext.virgin...public/GilHerl.html
One of the first examples of feminist utopian fiction. Three male adventurers end up in an utopian state inhabited only by women, where everything is so much better than in the real world. Ripping good yarn, not. [jutta, Apr 30 2006]

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       Sounds like a decent premise for a novel but don't you think it would be a bit more believable set in the future rather than the past? Especially since us guys may be declared redundant and marked for deletion any time now. [Link]   

       alternative history novels are all the rage it seems - i just did a magazine illustration for an article about harry turtledove who wrote a series of books on space lizards joining the nazi party just before WW2, and the ensuing alternative history. i havent read any of his books, but the whole idea of re writing the past is an interesting one.
benfrost, Dec 28 2004
  

       Yeah, I read that book; all the vibrator factories took over.
mensmaximus, Dec 28 2004
  

       I like this idea much more with the addition of the space lizards. +.
bungston, Dec 28 2004
  

       The sequel to this book (about one million and twenty years from now) would feature each society -- the "men" and the "women" -- diverging into two sub-societies. No society of identical people can persist for long, because it is human nature to vary. After a decade or two, some men will have become femininer than their copats, and be ostracized; and some women will have become masculiner than their society, and be ostracized; then a third society will develop which will invite both ostracized subgroups and quite possibly be heterosexual again.   

       Continued ad infinitum, it's Pascal's triangle existing in real life.
phundug, Dec 28 2004
  

       Since we are talking SF, another plotline would be a society of cloners, who find sexual reproduction repugnant - akin to Huxley's Brave New World. Cloning eliminates genetic variation, which is fine for stable conditions but no good if you need to adapt. The question: to introduce genetic variation artificually with controlled mutation, or to reinvent meiosis and combine with other cloners?
bungston, Dec 28 2004
  

       //the whole idea of re writing the past is an interesting one.//   

       Try reading 1984. The government regularly rewrites the past in their favor.   

       //find sexual reproduction repugnant - akin to Huxley's Brave New World//   

       1984 is a better match. Sex is glorified in Brave New World, only procreation is shunned. Any sex is considered vulgar in 1984, but is seen as a necessity for procreation until better methods can be developed.
Aq_Bi, Dec 28 2004
  
      
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