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Glass wires for space windows
Fiber optics used to pipe in sunlight
 
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Detractors to space colonization often claim that we will never have a large presence on airless worlds, because to shield against radiation, and still obtain sunlight for growing crops, it would be necessary to have windows several feet thick, which is obviously impossible.

The usual reason given is that solar radiation would otherwise be able to penetrate the hull of the vessel, and cause us all to die... and if our windows were several feet thick, they would shatter every time a micrometeorite hit them.

Come now, to shield against radiation, you may need a few meters of material, but it doesn't have to be glass. Indeed, water does a much better job.

However, the risk of having windows of any kind pitted and broken by micrometeorites is a very real concern. How to get light in then?

Well, why not pipe it in via fiber optics. Natural sunlight is already filtered by several miles of atmosphere, so if the fibers are not covering 100% of the colony, that should be no major problem. Fibers a few feet thick are no problem to make, indeed, there may be a few suitable leftovers from cables lying around already, and as for shielding, well, we should be able to make fiberoptics out of tinted glass just as easily as we make tinted windows out of tinted glass, right?

Fiber optics have a number of distinct advantages over windows. In areas distant from the sun, we can attach large lenses to the ends of the cables, and collect more sunlight. In areas near to the sun, we can have fewer cables, and collect less sunlight. The thin diameter of a fiber makes for a smaller hole if one is "broken," and it can be pushed through several airtight layers, wheras a window would need to replace some of the shielding.

The cables can be bent about, to allow micrometeorite shielding to overlap all areas of the colony, whereas a window would need to open right up to exposed sunlight. In fact, for some applications, layers of cloth are used for micrometeorite shielding, and fiberoptic cables might be woven into cloth to provide this shielding as well as giving light.


ye_river_xiv, Feb 23 2007

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Maybe my scepticism is outwieghed by my lack of knowledge of optic fibre! [Jinbish, Mar 09 2007]

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       A lot seems to be based on the assumption that glass is a particularly weak material, which it needn't be.

MaxwellBuchanan, Feb 23 2007
  

       Better to use photovoltaic panels to generate power for artificial daylight. This would certainly be beneficial in another solar system where the radiation characteristics of an alien sun might not be suitable for growing food.

nuclear hobo, Feb 23 2007
  

       I wonder how they really work. lensing can only make sunlight come from more angles. funnels should spit out a lot of light like a baby that takes several trys to get the food in. But once you get it in distances should not be a problem. I am curious how much of a close packed bundle of fiber optics with their ends exposed has in receptive surface area and if there is any way of improving that.   

       Just guessing but to light up a room you can probably lens a little and simulate a sunny sky by using 6 times the area on the outside. I have no reason to think that this is not doable, and micrometiorites may make this the practical solution for all I know. I am rather fond of the topic anyway so you get a bun from me. [+]   

       I think neuclear hobo has a point though even if we are using this sun. from what I understand there are really only two wavelengths that are fundamental to plants. Blue which is a fairly narrow band that is used in photo synthesis. Red which stimulates growth in some situations. You can generate power and get a really high efficency out of LEDs which only put out one wavelength. Colder or hotter stars would probably not be good for plants. Smaller stars probably wouldn't have enough blue and you would have to run it off a heat engine anyway.   

       I was thinking about having Tidally locked planet in this solarsystem with a few mirrors that never need moved to give the light a path that would be impossible for meteorites to follow. Probably run it through water, I think that takes care of a lot of UV quickly(not sure). you could pass a lot of light through a little water. Such a ring of greenhouses around twilight would have enough shaded surface area above them to radiate waste heat, a feature that makes the moon's poles attractive.

MercuryNotMars, Feb 23 2007
  

       //A lot seems to be based on the assumption that glass is a particularly weak material, which it needn't be.//   

       At the orbital velocities micrometeorites reach, everyting is a particularly weak material.   

       If an object the size of a grain of sand can put a five foot wide hole through a two foot thick wall of lead, I don't think any kind of glass stands much of a chance.

ye_river_xiv, Feb 26 2007
  

       //Well, why not pipe it in via fiber optics?//   

       ...because optic fibres are very picky about what light will travel down them.   

       Optic fibres have a particular frequency response, mainly depending on the width of the fibre.

Jinbish, Feb 26 2007
  

       Water, on the other hand, transmits all visible frequencies and has the wonderful capacity to absorb the energy of micrometeorites without sustaining any damage. Shame it boils off in a vacuum.

wagster, Feb 26 2007
  
      
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