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I'm sure his has been done, but I couldn't find it ..
The Human android
Artificial life research seems unlikely to produce fully human level
machines in a neat human packages c.f. the androids of fiction.
Personally, i still think the brain is going to be a sticking point.
over millions of years in all departments at
Our foresighted designers can't do that. Top down, we get a lot
itty bitty robots that can do just do a few things ( albeit better
than humans.) Or bottom up- if artificial evolution really comes
we get something unforeseen. Maybe a new terrestrial alien
intelligence that wants to flourish - at our expense. Not our new
best friend/the lovebot we want. At best - more unhappy slaves
This is my limited understanding of the science - I stand to be
Meanwhile all the hardwork has already been done by nature +
The android = andros eidos = likeness of a man = man
Obedient monks of Scetis
Assassins of Alamut ( see the one who instantly jumped off
battlements when ordered)
Volunteers of the 'human waves attacks' clearing minefields in
The holy route offers a path to happy 'slaves', bound for heaven, if
they obey their simple commandments.
1Thou shalt obey
2Thou shalt protect thyself unless.. ( ok bollocks to other laws -
complicated- sorry Issac )
Cloned of course only from people with proven track-record of
religiosity. Like St Simeon Stylite ( lived on a platform on top on
50 foot column in Syrian desert for 37 years. Yes, he's the man for
us. Surely a bit of his DNA is kicking around somewhere? Maybe in
bone reliquary in the Vatican. Otherwise: scan for the "God gene"
right dose of obsessive compulsive disorder ..
ala [krelnik] [2 fries shy of a happy meal, Apr 12 2017]
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||It occurs to me that Certain spoil-sports, not believing the
new androids are happy to serve, (in fact much happier
than the general atheist population ) - or out of sour
grapes - will try to scupper the whole arrangement by
saying repeatedly " you know there's No God right? And you
have No Soul. And after you die, No Heaven. " But this can
be dealt with quite simply in the mythology of our little
cult. E.g. " and it shall be sayeth that the name of thine
godeth be called No God, and your soul is called No Soul,
and heaven we shalt in our divine wisdom be called No
Heaven " they nod in happy agreement
||// Maybe a new terrestrial alien intelligence that wants to flourish - at our expense. Not our new best friend/the lovebot we want. //
||You should give it a try - Assimilation isn't that bad, you know...
// At best - more unhappy slaves to be oppressed. //
||And the downside is ... ?
// This is my limited understanding of the science - I stand to be corrected. //
||As in, "Strict Schoolmistress disciplines naughty children with cane" ? That usually costs extra.
||Well, at least it's not in other: general
||The help file is over there on the left, under "meta"
||Wrong classification: This is about halfbakery
privates, not the generals.
||Sorry.. I read the help, still a bit confused about
categories. How do you know which one?? Now I've put it
under other: religion...maybe better? it's like when I
Thought I was playing netball at school but it was really
football, turned out they both have nets
||//still a bit confused about categories. How do you know which one??//
||I usually search for ideas close to the one I want to post and see what categories other people have chosen or there is always this [link] to refer to.
||Don't thank him, he'll just get insufferably smug again.
||I am struggling to identify the idea here. Is it "clone up a batch of slaves?" "Avoid disgruntlement among the lovebots?" Someone summarize please.
||The basic idea : some devout people should be
indoctrinated from birth to follow a religion whose main
commandment is "obey people". John Sladek did it already
(kind of): he said Asimov's three laws might be just a
religion for robots - three commandments
||Baked by Jim Jones et al?
||//Jim Jones// - didn't he just get most of his disciples to
kill themselves with poisoned Kool -Aid? That's no way to
treat a valuable resource. I think it was a direct order too
so asimov's third wouldn't have saved them..
||I think you skipped the requirements phase in this project.
||Do we want more compliant people to buy useless stuff or do we want more compliant people to make useless stuff, or do we just need to train Post Brexopocalypse Mancunian Candidates to gun down everyone who uses the word 'narrative'.
||Odd I'm part of the last generation that has a work ethic and yet a little greedy, and a little bit rock and roll.
||How do the expressions go ?
||1) Work to live
2) Live to work
3) Do as little work as possible
4) If you have to work then don't be a failure at that too.
5) Some other weak-minded narrative.
||This is totally against nature's sexy system to randomly find
a whole lot of solutions to future problems.
||Can't answer those points bigsleep and wtj cos I didn't
really understand. if you're saying work is good for people
bigsleep I agree. But progress has a way of happening:
success in science and tech = scientists feel good, get paid,
get laid = invent stuff = progress= lots of people lose their
jobs to machines. At least human humanoids ARE people,
purpose-driven - likely to be fulfilled & happy.(also filled
with good religious delusions) As for the rest of the (free)
world, Jobs are already going. Maybe we'll start having fake
jobs, fake offices where you do pointless filing and stuff to
give you the benefits of work like coffee and a chat/ get
away from the spouse and kids. we already have fake boats
called rowing machines and bikes stuck in gyms. Remember
there'll be a veneer of VR fanatasy over it all which will
help the illusion ..
||Why design a group with one trait? Knocking out a one
traited group is easy but knocking a mass of
random trait starters is next to impossible That's how
nature designed us.
||Some maybe Human humanoids, some maybe human
humans, some maybe human aliens, some maybe Human
waterbears ...and some just tardy... ·
||yes agree wtj it's a big drawback of clones if they all
succumb to the same infection.. may put the kibosh on this
one. Wish that was the premise for Star Wars ' attack of the
||Nobody understands wjt. But you'll get used to him.
||As far as fake jobs go, we already have a great many of those.
Insurance middle-men, advertisers, "internet researchers,"
Breitbart bloggers, SNL writers, pyramid scheme middle
layers, the Trump Administration...