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The British had a good way of dealing with convicts: Sending them to what was a remote and barren land, far away from society (Australia). I propose a modern take on this. Large prisons could be constructed in Kalaallit Nunaat (Greenland) and Nunavut (an arctic province in Canada governed by Eskimos/Inuit)
for violent offenders and prisoners at risk of escape. Why you ask? Because these areas are extremely remote and dangerous - to escape would mean to die of exposure or to be killed by carnivores such as polar bears and wolves. It would provide additional income for the governments involved. The government of the jurisdiction in which the offender was convicted would pay the host government a mutually agreed upon sum of money per year to keep the inmate. Someone proposed something similar at the half-bakery, but he suggested a place with hot weather (could be a deterrent to escape but much less likely) Of course the host government would also be paid for transportation to and from the prison. Foreign trade for the 21st century.
Google search: "Siberian prison camps"
http://www.google.c...berian+prison+camps
[waugsqueke, Oct 04 2004]
Now the Australians are doing it
http://en.wikipedia...ki/Pacific_Solution
[manicdictator, Jul 20 2008]
"The Lonely" from a Twilight Zone episode
http://en.wikipedia...(The_Twilight_Zone)
[Klaatu, Jul 20 2008]
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The Soviets had this idea long before you. |
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What might make this idea somewhat more original is if you put the polar bears and wolves *inside* the prison... |
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It didn't do much good when it was tried with America, then Australia, then Russia. In fact, the purpose of imprisonment is rehabilitation, rather than simple segregation. Disallowing family visits, as this would, is counterproductive. |
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Yes, there would be an economic benefit, but the downsides are greater than the benefits you propose. The US alone has almost three million people in prison. Who pays for the infrastructure to set up and maintain a prison system with a population greater than that of most countries on Earth? How do you grow food for, say, 20 million, in country that barely supports 500,000 (with substantial imports of foodstuffs and materiel). |
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Back to the drawing board? |
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Oh, that hoary old chestnut again rears its ugly head. |
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Certainly, there are some offenders who are impossible to rehabilitate, but I find it interesting they are only found in those countries that condone the death penalty or non-parole imprisonment. Maybe it's a mental condition triggered by a specific set or sequence of political happenstance? |
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I'm saying there are some countries where the maximum you can serve is 25 years, and that the possibility of reoffending is incredibly reduced by the end of that period, to the extent the offender may be released. There has been a case here recently, where a sex offender had dealt indecently with in excess of 300 children. There is a push to alter the legislation to ensure he stays inside for life. |
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Perhaps you need to read my previous post again. |
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Maybe not. My point is that the assumption it is impossible to rehabilitate someone is on the part of the captors, not the captives. Think different. |
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Camping in Siberia... ah, the memories. |
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//What might make this idea somewhat more original is if you put the polar bears and wolves *inside* the prison...//
But they've done nothing to deserve such treatment. Poor things! |
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Good source of protein, though. |
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Dead people can't hurt anyone. No transportation costs, no worrying if they've found a way off the island, no guards to pay... Simple. Effective. |
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This is so well baked that Heinlein wrote it as the plot of "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress." Joe-Bob says "Check it out." |
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Three convictions for jaywalking, and you're Soylenced? |
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Heinlein also groks that imprisonment is a "wrongness". I'll have to pick up "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress." Thanks, [ato_de]. |
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Joe-Bob was a movie reviewer in the '80s. May still be around. Rated everything by the number of breasts and gallons of blood. If the nubers were high enough he would give it a "Check it out" seal of approval. This is not to imply that "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" is all about blood and breasts, I was just using the old Joe-Bob reference because I've been watching "I love the '80s" on VH1. |
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[UB] I'm not that generous. |
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I myself have very high nubers. |
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