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Lichen for Mars
Biological terraforming aid
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Plans to terraform mars generally focus on heating the planet, so that the CO2 in the ice caps melt, thickening the atmosphere so that water can remain in a liquid form at the surface.

One solution is to introduce artifical greenhouse gasses, such as CFCs, which although proven safe for humans to breathe, cause serious problems with global warming, and our Ozone, or the more ozone friendly, and UV blocking, but possibly science-fiction class of PFC chemicals. Kim Stanley Robinson claims that about a thousand facotries about the size of a volkswagon could be designed to synthesize these chemicals on Mars, and warm the planet up to a toasty Himalaya's type climate.

That's all well and good, but what kind of space program would ever launch a thousand volkswagons to Mars? Not ours, that's for sure.

So, we've got a potentially fictional terraforming chemical, and a definite pipe drea of a delivery system. This idea could be really great if we tossed in some GM Magic.

As I figure it, CFCs are a lot less complex than a lot of the chemicals we already use bacteria and such to synthesize. So, if we splice some genes to produce this sort of gas into a cyanobacteria, we can throw that good old blue green algae all over Mars...

and it will freeze, dehydrate, and die, because algae grows best in water. What we need is a tougher kind of plant.

Lichens might make a better host for our GM genes. Composed of algae and fungus (as well as other things somethimes) there are actually multiple organisms we could fiddle with, in case one doesn't work as well as the other. The symbiotic nature of the organism allows lichen to dwell in drier, colder environments with much thinner atmospheres. Some lichens are also able to leech oxygen, and other useful chemicals from the substrate they grow on.

The durability of lichens make these organisms much more likely to survive on Mars. Also, a "volkswagon" sized payload of lichen could be sent to Mars, and grow there, increasing the returns of such missions exponentially until Mars is hellishly hot and... um, maybe we better remember to include some suicide genes.

Oh well, if you want a terraformed world, you've got to break a few planets I guess.


ye_river_xiv, Mar 27 2007

Trees on Mars http://www.space.co...r%2C+Arthur+Clarke.
[ldischler, Mar 27 2007]

Greenhouse gasses as a ratio to CO2 http://www.pewclima...es/table1_large.gif
CF4 is 6,500 times more effective than CO2 [ldischler, Mar 28 2007]

Nuke Mars Nuke_20Mars
Just in case those lichen-nanobots get a little rowdy. [Hunter79764, Mar 30 2007]

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       I like the idea of using live organisms for this. But life needs water. Lichen can survive without water (in space, even) but it won't grow. So it's something of a catch 22, I'm afraid.

placid_turmoil, Mar 27 2007
  

       Are CFC's really a greenhouse gas? I thought they inhibited the Ozone cycle. Two entirely different mechanisms. I also can't imagine Mars has an ozone "layer" such as we have here. The total mass of CFC's released to atmosphere here must be minute, compared to say CO2 and Methane.   

       Happy to be corrected here, but it sounds like you've got two different atmospheric phenomena mixed up.

Custardguts, Mar 27 2007
  

       Lichen indeed would need water to grow. However, they might get extremely minute amounts of water. The Spirit rover determined that the atmosphereic temperature, and density are just about right to allow liquid water to exist... at certain times of the day and year. We know that there is H20 on Mars. It's simly a question of what state it is in. All the same, there are some plants which can grow off of ice, and off of water vapor. Ice algae is one such organism, and the type of cyanobacteria it is formed of can also be incorporated into lichens.   

       My understanding is that CFCs BOTH cause greenhouse effect, AND deplete the Ozone. I thought I was pretty clear about this... //artifical greenhouse gasses, such as CFCs, which although proven safe for humans to breathe, cause serious problems with global warming, and our Ozone// No confusion about which atmospheric phenomena we are talking about here; just the understanding that CFCs cause both of them. Indeed, as I understand it, CFCs are extremely powerful greenhouse gasses, so that very minute concentrations cause more heating that CO2, water vapor, or Methane. This greenhouse effect is totally separate from their equally powerful ability to cause holes in the Ozone.   

       Mars of course does not have an ozone layer like earth's. That would require a large supply of free Oxygen. However, if we intend to terraform Mars, it might some day have both lots of free oxygen, and an ozone layer like earth.

ye_river_xiv, Mar 28 2007
  

       Again with the messing up of mars. Can't we just leave it alone and live in space? More room and less dust up there.

Galbinus_Caeli, Mar 28 2007
  

       Maybe CFC's are 10,000 times more active, but there can't really be 1/10000th the moles of CO2, can there? I mean, there's a lot of CO2!   

       Also, the ozone depletion mechanism comes from UV making Cl radicals that break down ozone catalytically.

GutPunchLullabies, Mar 28 2007
  

       (actually reading the link) A couple of million times less than CO2. Still more than I expected!

GutPunchLullabies, Mar 28 2007
  

       You could sell tickets to jump in.

bungston, Mar 28 2007
  

       Okely dokely. As I said, happy to be corrected.   

       I would still think that long term population of Mars would include a working ozone cycle. Which CFC's would actively inhibit.   

       Looking at the table, CF4 looks to be the most efficient global warming gas, when taking lifecycle and GWP into account.

Custardguts, Mar 28 2007
  

       "VolkswagEn"

nineteenthly, Mar 29 2007
  

       Do we really have to screw up *another* planet?

nuclear hobo, Mar 29 2007
  

       //Do we really have to screw up *another* planet?//   

       Human nature being what it is, we will likely have to really screw up them all eventually.

ye_river_xiv, Mar 30 2007
  

       Now, if we could just figure out some kind of life form that is entirely dependent on dry ice as its source of energy. Something which doesn't need water to live, like a biological heat engine or something. I know, perhaps we could use self-building nanobots to terraform mars, or maybe make a nanobot-lichen hybrid, and maybe throw in some explosive butane gas and liquid oxygen in there as well. Then just sit back an watch evolution do its thing.... but don't wait too long, or the lichen-nanobots will somehow declare war on earth.

quantum_flux, Mar 30 2007
  

       //but don't wait too long, or the lichen-nanobots will somehow declare war on earth.// That's already worked out. Just follow the first part of [bungston]'s idea. [link]

Hunter79764, Mar 30 2007
  

       Ack! Who said we could toss nanotech-magic into a perfectly bad GM-magic idea?   

       Ah, but the idea is that we would also be nuking Mars. All good terraforming plans involve seasonal deployment of nuclear arsenals near the poles of Mars. There's a large deposit of black dust near one, and by blowing it up each summer (for that hemisphere) you'll decrease the albedo of the ice cap, allowing it to be heated in the summer, and melt more of the CO2 and water into the atmosphere.   

       Trouble is, volkswagon-sized chemical factories don't tend to hold up well around blast and fallout zones, and repair technicians don't care much for the hazard pay. With the lichens, they can grow back on their own... more or less...   

       Oh... I've been meaning to deal with this issue: //I would still think that long term population of Mars would include a working ozone cycle. Which CFC's would actively inhibit//   

       True, a working ozone layer would be nice. However, why do we really need an ozone layer on earth? On Earth, the ozone layer blocks out UV waves, which reduces our risk of skin cancer, and mutations.   

       On Mars, extra mutation might be quite useful for a while, as organisms will need to adapt. Also, as Mars is more distant from the sun, and as the power of the sunlight decreases as an inverse square, there will be less UV to block in the first place.   

       These details aside, surely in the course of terraforming an entire planet, we could find some other way to block UV waves. For quite a while, we'll want as much breathable oxygen as possible on Mars, and we won't be too keen on having it trapped up in ozone anyway.   

       All this talk of CFCs is just a basic concept thing. If we can find any other reasonably long-lived nontoxic gas that is good at trapping heat, we're set. If it also blocks UV, we're golden, and we won't need an ozone ever, because something else will be doing the job of the ozone for us.   

       Until then, there will likely be great advances in the field of UV-blocking greenhouse dome materials.

ye_river_xiv, Mar 31 2007
  
      
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