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Matroyshklock
10:17, tovarisch.
 
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The old woman, bent and wasted by the weight of her four score and ten years, pressed the bulky package into my arms, murmuring quietly in Russian.

Too surprised to demur her offer, I watched as she made her way around the corner, resolute in her progress, wearied in her mien.

I strode quickly to the door to my apartment, the chill wind biting at my cheeks, making my eyes water, plucking with icy fingers at the spaces between the buttons of my overcoat.

Inside, I put the parcel down on the table and began to unwrap it. At first, I was unsure just what it was. Three concentric rows of tiny, exquisite Babushka dolls arranged on an ornately craved and gilded table, about 2 feet across and 5 inches high.

I found a large, golden key, resting in a tiny compartment on the side of what was beginning to look suspiciously like a clock. But what a clock! No hands on the clock, just the dolls. Smallest on the inside, then larger, and finally a ring of twelve of them around the outside.

Tentatively, with a little thrill of excitement not unlike that I felt after the last dance on my prom night, years ago, I gently inserted the key in the lock at the center of the clock and began turning it. Yes, it was definitely a clock now. Apparently it was meant to lie flat, rather than hang on a wall.

Things began happening quickly. I noticed that one of the dolls in the inner row was missing its lid, revealing a smaller doll inside, with tiny, jointed arms and hands. The next one in the row suddenly took off its lid, with tiny mechanical hands and passed its lid to the lidless one next to it. This process repeated itself another forty or so times, then the lidless doll in the middle ring was suddenly handed a lid, by its neighbor.

I have been sitting, watching, in rapt fascination for four hours now.


UnaBubba, Jan 16 2003

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       Echos of the past.

FarmerJohn, Jan 16 2003
  

       <Russian pedant>These are actually called Matryoshka dolls, not babushka dolls</Rp>   

       A ochen interesnoh... menya zovoot...

RayfordSteele, Jan 16 2003
  

       ya ne ponimayu russkii.

UnaBubba, Jan 16 2003
  

       So if foolserrand's clock is a Matroyshklock, then that means a Babushklock is one whose alarm is a loop of Kate Bush wailing, "Aaaaaah, aaaaaah, Babooshka, Babooshka, Babooshka, yi-yiiiii..."

friendlyfire, Jan 16 2003
  

       And a croissant for using the J. Peterman's Catalogue style.

friendlyfire, Jan 16 2003
  

       Very lovely [fools]. I have to disagree with Professor poppadom and two barns, I'm all for the clock ideas. Particularly when they are of such a high quality.

madradish, Jan 17 2003
  

       Thank you. This place is about original, impractical ideas, if I read the help file correctly. I believe it to be incumbent upon members to attempt to be original in their postings and their annotations. I don't denigrate the ideas of others unnecessarily, nor am I about to tolerate bullying treatment by others.   

       In lurking a long time I have learned a lot about the personalities here. Some of the regulars seem to be bullies, with few redeeming qualities.   

       If I was posting trash then I would expect harsh treatment. I am taking pains to post ideas that I think fit the brief laid out.   

       I think I understand why some newbies are treated badly, but not why some people find it necessary to regurgitate their bile over everyone they assume can't defend themselves.

UnaBubba, Jan 17 2003
  

       madame radish, I agree with you. If you don't like clock ideas, don't read them.   

       Having a little trouble picturing this in operation, fools (may I call you fools?).

waugsqueke, Jan 17 2003
  

       By all means, good sir.   

       The passing of a lid from, say, the 12:00 position to the 11:59 position signifies that the minute has passed from 11:59 to 12:00. The bareheaded doll becomes the marker for the minute hand, or the second or hour hand, as the case may be.   

       Is that clearer?

UnaBubba, Jan 17 2003
  

       //This place is about original, impractical ideas, if I read the help file correctly//   

       Well not necessarily impractical ideas. Practical ones are good too. Don't worry about the vindaloo, he gets grumpy sometimes.   

       Whatever you do, don't leave. Polite creative and erudite newbies are in woefully short supply nowadays.

madradish, Jan 17 2003
  

       Yes, it is, thanks. How many rings are there, and dolls within those rings? Sorry for so many questions... I'm just trying to picture FJ's 3:20:41 on it.

waugsqueke, Jan 17 2003
  

       60 in the inner ring, for seconds.
60 in the middle ring, for minutes.
12 in the outer ring, for hours.
  

       3:20:41 would mean the outer ring would have the 3:00 doll lidless, the middle ring the 4:00 doll, and the inner ring the 8:12 doll.(the one above 8:00).

UnaBubba, Jan 17 2003
  

       Skazhiti, pazhAlsta, tOchnaye vrEma

thumbwax, Jan 17 2003
  

       [thumbwax] you need to work on your accent.

madradish, Jan 17 2003
  

       A similar concept would be a pharaoh clock with mummies removing their coffin lids.

FarmerJohn, Jan 17 2003
  

       Accompanied by creaking sounds, and indistinct, murmurous chanting?

UnaBubba, Jan 18 2003
  

       Please bear with me. I am a Virgo so I really, REALLY need to be clear about this. The outer ring contains 12 dolls inside a 2-foot diameter. Assuming each doll abuts the next, that means each doll is what, about five inches across? Then the next ring is 60 dolls, right? One for each minute. Again, if they are touching each other that means you've got 60 dolls inside a ring of 14 inches diameter. My slide rule says that makes these dolls about 3/4 inch each. That brings us to the innermost, or seconds ring. There again we have 60 dolls, this time in a ring of about 12.5 inches, so they'd be about 2/3 inch. That's so close to the minutes dolls the only way to tell them apart is by how quickly they pop their lids. What if we make the outer ring 24 dolls instead? That would, of course, make them smaller (about 3 inches and change) and the minutes dolls larger, but that would be a desirable result here. And do we really need 60 more dolls for the seconds? I mean I like the idea of the lid popping on and off around the ring initially, but wouldn' t it just get annoying?   

       I think I will still give this idea a croissant, but I'd like someone who is more skilled with numbers to confirm or quash my figures, as the case may be. Perhaps one of our gifted comrades could enlighten us all with an artist's interpretation of this clock?

Canuck, Jan 18 2003
  

       Huh, I never thought of it that way. When I read through the description of this one I saw a spacing similar to the markings on a clock, with the 2ft (60cm) outer ring of dolls each maybe 3cm in diameter and the dolls in the inner rings slightly smaller.   

       The circumference of a 22in circle is 69in. If each doll in the minute ring was 3/4in then there'd be 3/8in between dolls. In a 20in circle, each second doll could be 5/8in, with similar spacing to the minute dolls.   

       Perhaps fools here can draw something for us?

UnaBubba, Jan 18 2003
  

       IzvinIti - for the pedants, the pronunciation I used was culled from an English/Russian business/tourist phrase-book published by The Moscow International School of Translation and Interpreting (MISTI) - Russia's first officially accredited postgraduate school, according to their own claim. The pronunciation of the Russian text is rendered in English letters, without resorting to special transcription signs. The given practical transcription enables the user of the phrase-book to pronounce Russian words quite satisfactorily, it reveals the difference between the spelling of words and their pronunciation. Meanwhile, being a simplified one, it does not reflect some details which are not important from the point of view of meaning, and is quite portable at 284 pages. My Great-Grandfather didn't speak a word of English - only Russian, and he, like every other Russian I've known (oh, about 200) would not have been such a pedant. I must say, I did almost override the -i ending to -ye, but given that my memory of 2 years of Russian language classes some 24 years ago isn't all it could be - I left it to the guide. Sheesh.

thumbwax, Jan 18 2003
  

       // That's so close to the minutes dolls the only way to tell them apart is by how quickly they pop their lids. //   

       You could tell them apart because one ring is inside the other.

waugsqueke, Jan 18 2003
  

       Granted, waugs, but please bear with me. I was tired when I wrote that and for clarity I suppose it should have said "the easiest way to tell them apart." If one were to catch a mere glance of only part of the clock's face (faces?) could one be really certain which ring was which?

Canuck, Jan 19 2003
  

       A different form of the Matroyshklock is in my head: Twelve dolls, each inside the next. The doll's head rotates to denote the minute, and on the hour, flips open to reveal the next doll, which continues the rotation. The hour is shown by the number of opened dolls (numbers printed on the inside of each head for ease of reading). at 12:00, all the heads flip shut, and we begin again.   

       Not as entrancing to look at as foolserrand's balletic creation, but it will fit on the shelf over the fireplace.

friendlyfire, Jan 19 2003
  
      
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