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Out of phase electric bike
Out of phase power delivery balances human input
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Conventional electric-assist bikes have motors that power the bicycle chain via a sprocket. The rider pedals as normal, but the motor supplements the power by turning.

The problem is that while the motor runs with a constant power output, the rider's legs do not. The rider pushes down, developing more power on each down stroke than when the feet are at the apex and nadir.

As a result, the drive power is not stable. It feels like you are cycling downhill or with a tail-wind, but (wo)man and machine are not working as one.

I suggest that instead, the motor should drive the chain via a pair of eliptical gears, each at 120 degrees leading and lagging the footpedals. There would be three phases of drive force per pedal cycle: two electrical, one human.

In the same way that three phase electricity generates a (nearly) smooth power output in industrial motors, this drive mechanism will deliver easy and complementary power.


FloridaManatee, Mar 11 2004



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       I remember some bicycles had an elliptical chainwheel for the rider. Didn't catch on. The electrical way of doing this is to regulate the speed of the motor :)

Ling, Mar 11 2004
  

       Since your bike is electric anyway put a torque sensor on the hub or a strain sensor on the chain. Then use that signal to control the torque of the motor. Saves weight and complexity. (There is still complexity in the electronics but you buy that as a chip).

kbecker, Mar 11 2004
  

       /(wo)man and machine become one./   

       Wire the batteries directly into the cyclists leg muscles.

Mungo, Mar 11 2004
  

       Why not put a set of toe clips on the pedals or a set of clipless pedals, and learn how to spin? As one leg pushes down, you pull up with the other.

bicyclerider4life, Dec 24 2005
  

       I think the point is that even if you learn the pull-while-pushing technique, you still generate much more torque while your feet are moving vertically than you do at the top/bottom of the stroke. It would be at that point that the electrical assist would be most appreciated, especially when going up a steep hill. (+)

gardnertoo, Feb 03 2007
  

       A pedaling person will generate two power pulses per revolution, seperated by 180 degrees. This holds regardless of if the person is using one leg at a time or two (pulling while pushing). Motor supplimental power could be applied in two pulses per revolution at 90 degrees from the human powered input, resulting in a 4 phase system, 2 human, 2 electrical.   

       In this simple form the motor cannot put in more power than the human. If it did then the two phases powered by the motor would make the drive power 'unstable' again. This makes it difficult to provide large amounts of supplimentary power.   

       A more sophisticated system would target a constant power output, monitor the human generated input power and subtract that amount of power from the motor output, resulting in consistent, smooth output power supplimented by the human.

codesuidae, Feb 06 2007
  

       On modern bicycles with elliptical chainrings, the drive is designed to draw maximum power from the rider on the up/down stroke, and to give their legs a brief rest at the top/bottom. My applying a motor-assist to this part of the cycle, you shorten this rest and could conceivably add to the fatigue of the cyclist.   

       Perhaps as an alternative, you could drive the system *in phase* with the cyclist. They'd get the same rests, and you'd be able to apply the benefits of the research into non-circular chainrings, but the cyclist would feel superhuman. Kinda like that exoskeleton freight loader in Aliens...

Defiler, Feb 07 2007
  


 
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