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Panic PIN self-destruct

Send the Panic PIN to its final resting place
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Wow.

Seven years later.

Three states, two cars, three jobs, a divorce, 9/11, a motorcycle, a motorcycle accident, turning 40, etc.

And it's still there.

Maybe it's time to hang it up and hit the candy-like 'delete' button.

So, what say you all?

johng, Sep 22 2007

Noooooo! http://www.panix.co...ta/t-shirt/back.jpg
[jutta, Sep 22 2007]

The Jolly candy-like button... http://www.youtube....watch?v=YhzvCyhkg8c
[2 fries shy of a happy meal, Sep 23 2007]

"the banks aren't buying" http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4086277/
... not widely known. [po, Sep 23 2007]

[link]






       Don't you dare touch that button. Panic PIN is on the back of the first halfbakery t-shirt. I even drew a little cartoon thug holding up someone in front of the ATM!   

       And congratulations for making it this far, scars and all.
jutta, Sep 22 2007
  

       Jutta,   

       And here I was thinking you'd be one of the most thrilled to be rid of the damned thing.   

       I didn't even know there was a t-shirt. Cool :-) Your little criminal mastermind rocks.
johng, Sep 22 2007
  

       Anathema,   

       Yes, the prior art was certainly one of the reasons I thought for blowing it away.   

       Mostly though it was just this impression from reading all those accumulated comments that a lot of people would be happier with it gone.
johng, Sep 22 2007
  

       Can it not be "parked" somewhere, in a new, as yet to developed, part of the bakery (the wine cellar - "the why not cellar?") so that its historical significance, along with annotations remain, but it has been "de-activated."
xenzag, Sep 22 2007
  

       panic pin is an icon. don't you dare delete it. and so are you come to that - man of mystery.   

       it would make my t-shirt obsolete as well.   

       so lovely to see you back for what? the 2nd time in 7 years?   

       obviously I have to fishbone this.
po, Sep 22 2007
  

       po,   

       More like the 5th or 6th if you discount that flurry in the initial week.   

       I did cast a vote for the Hullaballoon. Very whimsical. The world needs more whimsy.
johng, Sep 22 2007
  

       wow, I just spoke to the man himself and damn, I didn't get his autograph!   

       :)
po, Sep 22 2007
  

       Got nothing to add, but just to echo everyone else - don't delete it. Votes for it outweigh votes against by six to one; it has to be good.
david_scothern, Sep 22 2007
  

       1342
DenholmRicshaw, Sep 22 2007
  

       // hit the candy-like 'delete' button. // I would bun this for the Ren & Stimpy reference alone if I didn't want the Panic PIN to remain.
marklar, Sep 23 2007
  

       Yep and it's a good solid one minute and fourty one seconds well wasted. [link]   

       Pleased to finally meet you, [johng].   

       i don't really like the idea but i'm speaking very quietly because i don't want to be stoned as a heretic...   

       However, whether it stays or goes (and it looks like the wind is blowing from the 'stay' camp), I would suggest that you pop in occasionally and post some ideas. I know you have a lot to live up to now, but you never know how great that next idea might be...
wagster, Sep 23 2007
  

       <tosses pebble from hand to hand>
po, Sep 23 2007
  

       RIGHT! WHO THREW THAT?
wagster, Sep 23 2007
  

       seven years and you're still a newby, with the best record on tap. that' gotta be hard to do, [johng]. don't pull a diva on us and take away the past. yes, change cars, jobs, houses even wives, but let the panic pin remain.   

       too many people delete too many things around here. the world is funner messier.   

       and we LIKE you, so come back some time, ya hear? = )
k_sra, Sep 23 2007
  

       perhaps its to do with the guy's humility; someone who didn't troll or stamp around... <shrug>
po, Sep 23 2007
  

       ...ditto..// I had no idea I'd joined www.popularity.com// I'm almost certain that someone took the time to run through all of my ideas and add a bone to each of them - what's that about? I recall this having been done to some one else, so I'm not the first. I thought the Bakery was about ideas and not personalities. I think my time here will soon be concluded, as I don't want to share my thoughts with juvenile dweebs. (finger hovers over my own "destroy account" button. I have print- outs of everything so it's no big deal.
xenzag, Sep 23 2007
  

       Just let it go. You are not responsible for the emotional state of other users.   

       -
On dealing with inventions that exist:
  

       When someone posts something they know exists, that's just stupid, and we'll call them on it.   

       But if someone comes up with an idea, and then, later, they learn that it exists somewhere - that's just a coincidence, and no reason to attack them or remove their work.   

       To me, that seems fair towards the posters. Someone who posts something that turns out to exist has put just as much work into their post as someone whose work doesn't turn out to exist.   

       You can disagree with that, but then take it up with me (preferably in email), not with the individual posters. You're having a problem with the site policy, not with the way it's enforced.   

       -
On why Panic PIN has so many votes in favor:
  

       Once it ended up on top of the "top ten" list, anyone who'd be interested in the top ten would see it. Even users who never returned would first go look at the top ten, vote for an idea or two - and this would be one of the ones they'd see. It's a well-meaning enough idea, and people like to join others in their approval, so people would tend to vote for it - even though there are funnier and better and more original ideas on the site, this is the one that more people saw.   

       You can still build a top ten list yourself from the generic view editor. But I've stopped including it in the set of views that users get when they sign up because it made people think of the site too much as a contest.
jutta, Sep 23 2007
  

       AD, the idea was not widely known (baked) at the time and still is not in the real world. it was possibly healthily bunned because it provoked a great deal of fruitful discussion.
po, Sep 23 2007
  

       [xenzag] and [boysparks], it happened to me this weekend. Every single idea boned. It's not the decreased vote scores that worries me, but the fact that someone dislikes me enough to take the time to bother.   

       Oh well.
theleopard, Sep 23 2007
  

       Aw come on [xenzag], don't let the few people on this site who are immature, petty, un-intelligent, and (for lack of better words) just plain assholes distract you from the fact that almost everyone else here is intelligent, welcoming, and appreciative of good ideas and input, yours included. I haven't been here even close to the time you have and I've already realized this. After all, it's one of the reasons I joined.
acurafan07, Sep 24 2007
  

       //Is that a Ren and Stimpy reference?// One minute forty one seconds of my life that I will never get back, but yet, strangely worth it...   

       Keep it. It would be like destroying an artifact because all it does is sit around in a museum all day.
Hunter79764, Sep 24 2007
  

       //That's obsessive behaviour.//   

       [AD], you don't have to be obsessed to notice all your ideas suddenly receiving a negative vote. I'm proud of mine, regardless of their scores but even so it grates to see so many of them downgrade, or receive their only negative vote, all because someone took offense to something I wrote (I assume).   

       I agree with your sentiment of hypocriticism on the bakery; why do some ideas get treated differently etc. But I like [21]s redwood in the pines motif. I say keep the Panic PIN for the annos, the arguments and the references made about it elsewhere (of which there are many I believe).
theleopard, Sep 24 2007
  

       theleopard: don't obsess about it, really. I've had people do that to me several times, only for the fishbones in question to suddenly evaporate some time later, presumably on the destruction of the account in question. If someone is behaving badly enough to go fishboning every single idea of yours simply because you made a negative comment, they're behaving badly enough to get ejected for other reasons. And then the balance will be restored.
DrCurry, Sep 24 2007
  

       yeah, and a good boning never hurt anyone. : )   

       [edit: after searching i do indeed have a bone on every idea of mine but the newest ones and i'm sure the autoboner will remedy that shortly. it's part of being on the HB.]
k_sra, Sep 24 2007
  

       If I recall, the bun / bone ratio gets adjusted sometimes to control 'bun inflation.'
RayfordSteele, Sep 24 2007
  

       Do it.
GutPunchLullabies, Sep 24 2007
  

       //I had no idea I'd joined www.popularity.com.//   

       don't worry, [AnathemaDevice], everyone likes you, too.
k_sra, Sep 24 2007
  

       I guessed I missed this entirely, but the same has just happened to me. I don't check my account that often, but I was showing my s/o something today and noticed that my first idea used to have 2 1/2 buns and now had 2. As I looked down the entire column, I noticed every one had decreased. I wasn't aware that I had any *enemies* here and it just made me feel bad. I can't believe it's been happening to other 'bakers, esp. great ones like [xenzag]. I thought of quitting, but it would only spite myself. So, thank you all good 'bakers for kind and positive outlooks.
xandram, Oct 03 2007
  

       Re Bun inflation... An idea can have (I think) 22 buns and no bones, and still only be a two-bunner. So I think you are probably just running afoul of more stringent standards, and jumping to a conclusion. Just a theory, but it would explain this happening to so many people.
GutPunchLullabies, Oct 03 2007
  

       [gutpunch], I've got a +22 full bunner (plus another that's so achingly close) so the normalisation hasn't changed.   

       [xandram], it has happened a lot recently. Count yourself as one of the club!
theleopard, Oct 03 2007
  

       [johng], I'm one of the 50-odd people who've voted against the idea. I honestly don't think it's anywhere close to as good as many of the other ideas on here. But even I don't think you should delete an idea that 328 (not even including the 500 or so voters who lost their votes in the great big crash) people liked enough to vote for.   

       [xenzag] at a glance, it looks like your popular ideas outnumber the unpopular ones 10 to 1 or more. One person's opinion can't have that much weight in the face of that.
hidden truths, Oct 04 2007
  
      
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