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When I were a lad, I remember lots of references on
typically in sitcoms and television comedies, that made
use of swastika imagery in a funny or amusing manner.
Nobody thought anything much of it. I mean, everyone
the reference, and everyone knew that it was
the Nazis etc. But nobody got their knickers in a twist
over it and nobody was under the impression that there
was some unspoken boundary that had been
We just laughed at the bits that were supposed to be
These days, you cant do that. A hypothetical person
probably get away with going out and stabbing to death
that dog that keeps shitting on the pavement on our
compared with painting swastikas on ones Wheely bin,
know, for comedy effect. People would take it seriously
a bad way. The Wheely bin, that is, not the improved
This idea is to calibrate the amount of up-tight-ness each
generation or maybe each decade is characterised by,
using a simple device of comparison. The device is the
cultural response to the swastika symbol. Im fairly sure
varies through the ages, since the mid 20th century until
now, and equally, varies through time differently in
different countries or cultures.
Its similar to how bananas are used as a handy and
imagined way of quantifying how radioactive a thing is,
comparing it to how radioactive a banana is (i.e., it is).
Theres nothing implicitly evil or meaningful about
radioactivity, its just that they happen to be a certain
amount radioactive, and most people can imagine a
||Damn. I had a lovely long annotation which was swept netherwards
by the title change. Ah well.
||My point was that uptightness to any particular issue varies widely
over time. Even the degree to which our tights are up about
bananas varies (1950 - radioactivity is good; 2015 - not so much;
2115 - not an issue).
||Likewise, the swastika was a bit jokey in 1970, and probably will be
again at some point in the future. At the moment, a swastika can be
made less offensive by over-painting it with the word "cunt". (In
1700 you could have used both "cunt" and a swastika without
upsetting anyone much.) These responses to particular things change
over time, regardless of societies' overall degree of uptightness.
||Sorry about the title alteration, the initial title was
clumsy and I felt entitled to title it in a more
succinct manner, but all the while hurrying in case
someone started on the remnants of the old ghosted
page that would never exist.
||I recently saw on Netflix a modern short film (only about a
half-hour long) that was titled "Kung Fury" and was so
stupid it was funny. It featured time travel and Hitler and
lots of swastikas. They were certainly appropriate for the
film. So it appears that such can still be done without
setting off too many offensiveness alarms.
||We need a baseline. How many swastika's is a Yale protester
||I suspect Mr Tindale has earned the right to laugh at the
swastika by first withstanding the bombs with it on them,
then defeating its owners and feeding half of them to the
Soviets. When such a one laughs (until he coughs
breathlessly, clutching his chest), those hearing him know
why he laughs. But those considerably younger might
have suspect motives in laughing at the swastika.
||I recall as a child seeing a tile floor gaily decorated with
inlaid swastikas. I suspected that it had been laid down
before the swastika had been coopted by anyone.
||//Damn. I had a lovely long annotation which was swept
netherwards by the title change.//
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||Given long enough span of time, every conceivable symbol will go through a period of being extremely offensive, So, there will come a time when the ampersand will be reviled and will be surreptitiously graffiti'ed onto walls in the middle of the night by pretentious pseudo-anarchists. Use of the ampersand will only occur in underground agitprop newsletters, and politically-correct revisionist publishers will expunge the ampersand from historical texts.
||Please no KKK or Neo Nazi's or white supremacist, nor Islamist here.
||Since the application of swastikas are usually in a manner making it quite clear that the appliquer is not wishing the appliquee the prosperity symbolized by the gammadion cross, offense is not really a question.
||I saw quite a few Swastikas a few weeks ago, and wasn't
offended by them at all.
||Admittedly, they were all part of the permanent decor (wall
and floor tiling) of buildings built before the 1930s.
||I'm also not going to object if they show up in a production
of Cabaret (or a WWII movie).
||I wonder if there was ever a time when historically respected connotations of the swastika actually managed to give some repute to bad politics, the way that rainbows have been hijacked these days.
||Yes, and pink swastikas would be appropriate instead of rainbows.
||The elephant in the room is swastikas made
out of bananas. Presumably not offensive to
pachyderms? Or are the elephants equipped
with trunk mounted geiger counters?
||NB wandering around South Korea is a great
way to become desensitised to large, red ( the
right way round) swastikas.
||This would only work as integer measures since half and
quarter swastikas might look like square s-es or l-s
respectively, courting confusion and a general aversion to
||I like the use of the ampersand. But it does not connote anarchy to me. Maybe some Unionist sentiment?
||I'm fairly certain the hooked cross you refer to is about the phenomenon you are trying to measure. Afterall the hawk symbol is not unrelated and both pertain to a sort of calvinistic preoccupation with superficial symbols.