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Pulsating, hydro/pneumatic Pollocks

Jackson Pollock paintings brought to life
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If you have seen any of Jackson Pollock's paintings recently, they are starting to look a little tired and badly in need of bit of a make-over.

My idea is to revitalise them, by animating them in such way as to restore some of their original vigor and energy.

This will be achieved through the use of liquid colour, hydraulics, pneumatics, and pulsating micro tubing.

Each painting will be faithfully copied using lengths of transparent micro- tubing of various thicknesses and strengths. Once complete, the tubular version will be an exact replica, except made out of a tangle of overlapping, inter-woven clear capillaries.

These tubes are all connected to pressurised reservoirs of individual colours that match the originals. Once an hour the "paintings" are switched on and the assembled audience watches as the colour races around the tubes, filling every tiny orifice and capillary in a perfectly orchestrated symphony of motion. Weaker sections of the tubing will bulge out slightly to match every nuance of the originals.

When complete, the replica painting is allowed to remain static for a while, before its colour is systematically purged by a clear liquid, ready for the next infusion.

Now who's going to build it for me?

xenzag, Dec 04 2006

Jackson Pollock Painting example http://www.telegrap.../06/bapollock06.jpg
This is the one I'd like done first please [xenzag, Dec 04 2006]

Another candidate for Tubism http://www.abcgalle.../bruegel/jan15.html
I can just imagine the cherubs wiggling! [bungston, Dec 04 2006]

Pollock Painting Value (No. 5, 1948) http://www.nytimes....tner=rssnyt&emc=rss
Make that 50 million 140 million !! a world record [xenzag, Dec 06 2006]

Pollock in action (still image) http://images.googl...26rls%3Den%26sa%3DN
Impressive to watch as the painting evolves with additional colours built up in multiple layers. Genius at work. [xenzag, Dec 07 2006]

(?) Color cycling http://jacksontechs...jmvw/projects/cycle
Slow to load. Please be patient. [jmvw, Dec 09 2006]

Pollock Fabtastic BRILL http://jacksonpollock.org/
I just found this - YOU MUST TRY IT !!!!! [xenzag, Jan 24 2007]

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       thanks autobone-head.
xenzag, Dec 04 2006
  

       What a load of pollocks
BunsenHoneydew, Dec 04 2006
  

       There is no need to limit this technique to Pollock. Two dimension renderings are so past millenium. All of this ilk that have any interest value left in them should be au courantified using your pulsating tubes.
bungston, Dec 04 2006
  

       //Shall we discuss method of payment/ / once I see the colour of your tubing you can see the colour of my money.
xenzag, Dec 04 2006
  

       The art looks like a big ol' scribble to me.   

       As for the idea, well, at least it would bring some enjoyment for me on a technical level.   

       Neutral vote.
Texticle, Dec 05 2006
  

       that "big ol' scribble" is worth in excess of 50 million dollars
xenzag, Dec 05 2006
  

       What a country!
Texticle, Dec 05 2006
  

       While I did beat everyone to the obvious-first-bad-pun post, I think this idea is pretty cool. [+]
BunsenHoneydew, Dec 06 2006
  

       Pollock did not do "childish scribbles". //Is this art?// It's a halfbaked idea, as intended.
xenzag, Dec 06 2006
  

       bigsleep, I dont recal xenzag claiming this is HIS/HER work of art. If I am not mistaken the title suggests bringing some tired art to life. I now retract my bone and place my bun. I really had to think about this for some time and I rather like the idea of art that is alive.
Chefboyrbored, Dec 06 2006
  

       I also picked the Pollocks because of his original dribble technique - videos of which are very impressive to watch. see link for image.
xenzag, Dec 07 2006
  

       //I think you give the man way too much credit//   

       Your work does not get to worth over 100 million per painting for no good reason. If you don't know too much about him, you could do worse than view the film staring Ed Harris, looking remarkably like Jackson Pollock.
xenzag, Dec 07 2006
  

       I didn't put him on a pedestal, and if you look at his history you will see how much respect he gained from his peers. Jackson Pollock changed the way people paint with his "action paintings" for ever. He worked furiously and with total dedication, and he paid the ultimate price for his lifestyle.   

       I'm resting this up now as I don't really want to have to defend the established merits of a fine innovator in the art world. It's only supposed to be a half- baked idea after all.
xenzag, Dec 07 2006
  

       //Pollock did not do "childish scribbles". // Yes he did. I unknowingly produced a few Pollock forgeries at the age of seven. His work was a demonstration of how art doesn't have to be complex or require great artifice to produce if it is driven by original thought. It was, nonetheless, haphazardly spattered paint, no more, no less.

//Your work does not get to worth over 100 million per painting for no good reason.//
No, it reaches this value because it is popular, well-known and in restricted supply.
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DocBrown, Dec 08 2006
  

       //It was, nonetheless, haphazardly spattered paint...// no it isn't - there is nothing haphazard about Pollock's paintings. Couldn't let this go unchallenged.
xenzag, Dec 08 2006
  

       A quote from Pollock himself [Source Time Magazine 1956, courtesy of Wikipedia]:
"When I am in my painting, I'm not aware of what I'm doing. It is only after a sort of 'get acquainted' period that I see what I have been about. I have no fear of making changes, destroying the image, etc., because the painting has a life of its own."

My interpretation of the above quote is that his technique was to start painting in a random, unconscious manner, pausing only part-way through a work to impose a plan for its completion. Thus, use of the word 'haphazard' [adj. characterized by lack of order or planning, by irregularity, or by randomness; determined by or dependent on chance; aimless., Source dictionary.com] is entirely justified.
DocBrown, Dec 08 2006
  

       I disagree (but then I would) Pollock would never have said "my paintings are done in a haphazard manner".   

       The other descriptions are accurate, but the word haphazard implies casual and careless.   

       Anyway - I'm definitely leaving this alone now. Besides, I have another version of the same idea in the oven. (Hidden camera zooms in on dozens of fish being busily filleted ready to descend on sight of the dreaded "Pollock" word.)
xenzag, Dec 08 2006
  

       I agree, Pollock would never have said "My paintings are done in a haphazard manner". This supposition does not, however, constitute a refutation of the contention that haphazard painting was a part of his work.

There were good reasons why he would never had made such an admission. For one, the value of his work might have decreased significantly upon recognition that he did not follow a plan so much as he splattered paint and then looked for inspiration within randomness to complete a piece.

Re-read the quote:
"When I am in my painting, I'm not aware of what I'm doing."
This comes close to the definition of casual/careless.

You seem to be having difficulty reconciling the concept of a casual/pseudo-random approach with the creation of fine art. If Pollock proved anything, it was that these two things can go together.
DocBrown, Dec 08 2006
  

       Leave Pollock out of it. It's a good idea for art.
daseva, Dec 08 2006
  

       Educational references stimulate bunning. Plus, check out the controversy!
daseva, Dec 09 2006
  

       This idea reminds me of descriptions I've read of experiences with LSD, about patterned surfaces appearing to start breathing. Perhaps the idea could more easily be realized or prototyped in the form of computer art.
jmvw, Dec 09 2006
  

       I set up two images with palette animation. Please see link. It requires Java and will take a minute to load. I like the first one best. Is this somewhat similar to what you had in mind?
jmvw, Dec 09 2006
  

       I appreciate your efforts [jmvw], but the capillary tubes would fill with colour in the manner of a transparent hose. The hydraulics, and valve control sequences would be most complex. When empty of colour the whole thing would look like a pile of spaghetti of varying thicknesses.   

       [bigsleep] //Why does this idea have Pollock in the title ?//   

       The main reason why I selected Pollock was to imitate the trails of his travelling drip technique. The second reason, as I explained in the body of the idea, is because some of the originals are starting to look like greying shrouds. As for controversy, I thought this was just a bit of fun.... Bakery never ceases to surprise and delight.
xenzag, Dec 09 2006
  

       update: removed second image, added image of empty tubes.
jmvw, Dec 09 2006
  

       [jmvw] -most excellent work - you can now start on the life sized version with real tubing.
xenzag, Dec 09 2006
  

       Certainly. If you could just submit a small upfront retainer I will get started immediately. I think 400 kilodollar will cover the first five years, but if I have any expenses I will be sure to let you know.
jmvw, Dec 09 2006
  

       So, what you want is boiling, bubbling, juke-box-illumination Pollock paintings? I can see the headlines: "POLLOCK EXHIBIT PUTS THOUSANDS IN HYPNOTIC COMAS AND THOUSANDS MORE IN EPILEPTIC FITS"
Abusementpark, Dec 10 2006
  

       You read double-broadsheets, I see.
methinksnot, Dec 11 2006
  

       //This idea reminds me of descriptions I've read of experiences with LSD, about patterned surfaces appearing to start breathing.//   

       Heh. Yes, I've, er, "read" about those experiences too, [jmvw].
BunsenHoneydew, Jan 23 2007
  

       you MUST TRY the last link - you will thank me afterwards!   

       ps clicking mouse changes the colour.
xenzag, Jan 24 2007
  

       ice cream   

       dribbles of flavor   

       compelling   

       tasty   

       jackson pollack, sundae decorator
beanangel, Mar 13 2008
  

       You could do this microfluidically, although you'd need a multi-layer device. Basically, series of channels running through a glass wafer. The end result could have features down to a few microns - MiniPollocks.
MaxwellBuchanan, Mar 16 2008
  

       That's great news. Let me know when you've got it working, and I'll be over to check it against which of the original ones it was based.
xenzag, Mar 16 2008
  

       //You could do this//
MaxwellBuchanan, Mar 16 2008
  

       And for a minute I thought this would be full of derogatory statements regarding people of Polish descent...
ye_river_xiv, Mar 16 2008
  

       ////You could do this// - using centipede intestines perhaps?
xenzag, Mar 17 2008
  

       Where's [JMVW]''s piccies? I'm just getting a login screen.
wagster, Mar 17 2008
  

       //Using centipede intestines perhaps?// That would be silly. No, you could do this in glass or PDMS (polymer). The latter would be easier to make. Also, with PDMS it's possible to put valves into the system, so you could control the flow of colour to different parts of the image in sequence.
MaxwellBuchanan, Mar 17 2008
  

       In fact.....you could probably make a passable display technology based on three different coloured pigments and a multilayer, valve-controlled PDMS microfluidic device. The display would be pneumatically operated.
MaxwellBuchanan, Mar 17 2008
  

       I initially read this as Pulsating Hydro/Pneumatic Bollocks...
qt75rx1, Mar 18 2008
  
      
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