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Sacred Ornamental Lamp Posts

Because they deserve to be held in high esteem
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Not everything utilitarian and old need be replaced with the Philippe Starck version.

A lamp post which has done service for 100 years is obviously well designed. If it is fit for purpose then it is nonsensical to replce it in the name,solely, of progress.

N.B. Lamp posts are merely an example.

The point here is that we can preserve lamp posts by making them sacred objects. If we're going to develop a material culture then let's make it official and apply it to other objects, too.

S.O.L.P. can be the newest religion to attract the megawealthy, movie stars and the conspicuous consumers among us. At least, until something 'better' comes along.

UnaBubba, Feb 04 2002

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       totemly agree with you UB
po, Feb 04 2002
  

       I nominate old, red UK phone boxes for beatification (who acts as Pope here?). Both harder to vandalise than their modern replacement, and a national icon, up there with red double-decker buses, black cabs etc.
mcscotland, Feb 04 2002
  

       Yes, we must defame the desecration of art and culture in the name of efficiency and "progress." But be careful of taking things too far. One thing that impresses me mightily about Paris in particular is its willingness - even eagerness - to risk "desecration" of its "sacred" historical and artistic treasures with risky new design adventures. The Eiffel tower was initially uniformly scorned as an eyesore, but allowed to stand anyway. The Montparnasse tower is reviled now; who knows but that future generations may adore it. The new Grande Arche makes a wonderful statement about the continuity and validity of history and art in the present. And most amazing to me is the fact that there are abstract, 20th century stained glass windows in the west walls of the transepts in Notre Dame Cathedral.   

       Any of the above examples might well have been, and probably were opposed on the basis of the "sacredness" of the existing environment. But I think it takes an admirable vision and courage to take such risks, so long as they're risks in the name of vital art and not desecrations in the name of expedience.
beauxeault, Feb 04 2002
  

       New Orleans has ALOT of old lamp posts.
goff, Feb 04 2002
  

       my father had a great fondness for manhole covers and the like (don't ask - well if you must, do it privately) so I would like to keep them but not necessarily in situ.
po, Feb 04 2002
  

       There's also the glass pyramid entrance to the Louvre, [bx].   

       Would you count those stone lantern-post things you get in Japanese gardens as sacred; they're certainly ornamental?
Guy Fox, Feb 04 2002
  

       Thank you, Guy Fox. The pyramide du Louvre is clearly another shining example.
beauxeault, Feb 04 2002
  

       no soul whatsoever, shame on you.
po, Feb 04 2002
  

       I'd informed the author (was it neelandan?) of Streetwalking Lights or what-have-you early on that Lamp Posts shouldn't be discarded like so much rubbish. It all sorted itself out to where we were able to delete a number of anno's early on along with the idea itself being modified. Good on you - except the evil raven *boooo* *hiss* ; )
thumbwax, Feb 04 2002
  

       [ravenswood], the world needs more people like you. How else can the rest of us feel superior about something if there's no-one to mock?
UnaBubba, Feb 04 2002
  

       Here in New York, there's an old (20s? 30's?) Pepsi (or was it Coke?) sign across the East River from Manhattan that was decried as an eyesore when it was erected. It stayed up, though, and now that someone again wants to take it down, everyone's up in arms about preserving it. Plus ca change...
snarfyguy, Feb 04 2002
  

       [ravenswood]: the whole charm of boston lies in the older parts of the city... harvard square, downtown crossing, boston common... take away the red bricks and cobble stones and all you're left with is just another generic city in America, or just another generic city in any part of the world, really. Even those annoyingly confusing one way streets that swerve around makes Boston that much more interesting a place to get lost in. Long live S.O.L.P.!
superspygirl, Feb 05 2002
  

       The lamp-post thing is certainly baked in Eastbourne & Brighton, where the big, Victorian, cast-iron columns are still tended with love & care (and have to be individually re-made whenever some moron drives their car into one).

In general, I'm about halfway between the sacriligeous ravenswood and the idolatrous UnaBubba. Just because something's old, is no reason to keep it around but, by the same token, it's no good reason to tear it down either. Each case on it's merits, I say.
DrBob, Feb 05 2002
  

       [DrBob], I live in a city where it has been unofficially decided that there is an "official" architecture style. There might be 200 houses which truly conform to this style in a city of 1.8 million people, the rest are pathetic imitations, designed to fit on narrow little blocks of land, and smothered in heritage colours and brass fittings.   

       I simply refuse to conform to this nonsense. It has become so bad that many people (most) have added the prefix "old" to the style when talking about their dog kennel in heritage colours. I would gladly live in an authentic example of the architecture style known as a Queenslander. Prices for one in good condition start at about $850,000, in a city where the median house price is around $200,000.   

       The good, old examples are well worth saving, the newer stuff is just pretending to be fashionable.   

       S.O.L.P. is becoming the Scientology of the new millennium.
UnaBubba, Feb 05 2002
  
      
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