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Sexularity
Tantric path to a technological singularity. | |
Maybe the path to a technological singularity will be in
networking humans together through their allready existing
inputs and outputs to create a combined intelligence rather
than in creating an artificial AI or in creating an artificial
human interface. One possibility for natural mathematical
communication between two individual humans would be to
open up as high a bandwidth
interface as possible while exchanging as little information
as
possible, and then let natural rhythms synch up with
eachother. So two people could meditatively contact
eachother as much as possible -- by singing unison tones,
making eye to eye contact and physically sharing as many
contact points as possible, but translate as little information
as possible -- and wait for feedback loops to start on an
unconscious level. Boy its lonely out here.
Variences between sung unison tones would create beats
that could be used as a clock.
What, sort of like this?
http://ofcs.rottent...&page=1&rid=1334439
search for "chunting" [calum, Apr 13 2005]
A bit about Technological Singularity
http://www.kurzweil...ticles/art0092.html
[half, Apr 13 2005]
http://www.tantra.com/
[Susan, Jun 13 2005]
[link]
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This idea is either:
a. very very far ahead of it's time. (I can see some weird merit on an ontological level) |
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or
b. very very full of shit (knowing HB, more likely) |
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Thusly, I cannot vote for or against this idea. |
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I had a rattling conversation about this only the other day.We concluded that it was a tremendous achievement![+] |
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Let's begin at the beginning. What's a "technological singularity" and why would it be worth achieving? |
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Wow. That is just so... I don't know what that is. [+] for sheer impenetrability. |
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Whaddya say you and me go back to my place and creat a technological singularity... |
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+, cause I'm actually gonna use it. |
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Ohm .... you're getting sleepy ... Ohm ... you're getting sleepy ... Ohm ... |
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Love how you go digital in the last paragraph. |
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Sometimes ya gotta go digital to get the job done. |
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I think you could use this as a pickup line, JHC. A little wine, some rocking, some crooning, some physical sharing of many contact points! |
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Ah, I see Romulox has the same idea. Hope that impenetrability thing turns out to be wrong, [Rom]. |
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A karass (to use a Vonnegut term) could attain this singularity over an internet link—using, say, a specific set of beat frequencies. The Monroe Institute does this every week with small groups of people (20 or so). Quite frequently there is thought transference and all sorts of other psychic goings on. |
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[half], digital is probably preferable to analog, I'm guessing. |
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All your singularity are belong to us. |
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I don't think a circle jerk is the key to achieving higher consciousness, but good luck... |
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So, you're saying by having prolonged full-contact sex, our minds will become "attuned" to each other and we'll essentially become the same consciousness. |
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Even if this does happen (which I find doubtful, if only given that most people can't think productively when having sex), I don't see any additive intelligence ocurring here. Two people are thinking the same thoughts--but there is nothing to imply that this means double the intelligence, only one-half the independent processing of information. |
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most people can't think productively when having sex
because they don't slow down. |
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maybe the additive intelligence would come from each
person beinig able to query the other's database at a
much faster rate than they could by asking questions in
English. (using whatever sensory or graphical
language the body normally uses to converse amongst its
different organs -- to converse with the organs of another
body.) |
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ffffoooorrrrrr iiiinnnssttaannccee dddrraaaawwww
ppppiiicccctttuuurrrreeeessss wwwwiiiitttthhh
ttthhhheeeee wwwwwooooorrrrdddddsssss.
tttthhhhiiissss iiisss tttthhheeeee wwwwaaaayy tttooo
llleeeaaarrrrnnnn ttttoooo ddddaaaaannnccceeee aaatttt
yyyyoooouuuurrrr kkkkeeeeyyyy bbboooaaarrrdddd
tttoooo. |
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Easy there, [JHC]. I think you need a partner to do it properly. |
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For a moment [World], you were my partner. |
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thwarted pineapple, shirley. |
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Oh I see... it's a clock. |
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Tis a beautiful thing. Neal
Stephenson has a community called
the drummers that practises this
in "Diamond Age" |
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And this brings us to my secondary point: Don't do acid. (+) |
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//wait for feedback loops to start on an unconscious level// |
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If it's unconscious, then how do you know when it's happened, so that you can stop waiting? On the other hand, if you just wait indefinitely, then it could all just be a wind-up. And, as [RayfordSteele] said, a clock. |
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So, a wind-up clock ... which could perfectly well be shipped as a separate module, tantric sex not included. |
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With an earth population of 6.5 billion, that means we have tantric processing power of 6.5 gigachunts. Is that sufficient to achieve tantric singularity? |
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It has a few flaws...like the second many of my co-workers are linked into the net...there will be an automatic collapse of the intelligence levels...and an ever growing...in fact growing by path of the famous parabolic curve...of instablity and chaos. After passing the point of no return, abject gloom will depress the system and constant bitching and complaining will very quickly bring the system to a tragically critical lack of energy. Any new, innovative ideas presented to overcome the slightest weakness and head off disaster will be immediatly shot down and criticised to death. Also, my co-worker's penchant for infecting others with their perpetual dismay will cause a chain reaction of failure that will rival the mass destruction generated by the simple waft of air started by the gentle flutter of a butterfly's wings in the Congo. |
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"...Open up as high a bandwidth interface as possible while exchanging as little information as possible..." Yep, sounds like a typical relationship, all right. |
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Lily: Ohmmmm (giggle) mmmmmmmmmm(giggle,giggle) |
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Frank (whispering): Stop it, Honey. You're embarassing me. |
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Lily: I'm trying my best dear. This was not my idea you know. I wanted to go bowling with the Fergusons. |
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Martin: Uhh...excuse me...Can you two in the sunshine section please hold it down? We're really not supposed to......OH MY GOD, UNCLE FRANK, AUNT LILY. WHAT the ?@$%&% are YOU doing HERE!!! |
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Indeed [bneal]. Very Phillip K. Dick "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" |
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