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Offside traps played all the way up to the halfway line feel against the spirit of the game to me, like a cheap, easy trick to thwart creative, attacking play.
So why not draw a line all the way across the pitch at the edge of the goal area (i.e. extend the currently existing line) and determine that
offsides can only occur between this line and the goal line (guess a diagram could help here).
We'd still have offside, and the ability to play the offside trap, albeit much closer to the goal, so goal hanging and long ball strategies ought not prevail, and defensive play would have to become a bit cuter between the goal area line and halfway line. Referees and assistants would have a smaller area of the pitch in which to enforce a difficult rule, so line assistants in particular ought to be in the right place at the right time more often than currently.
Because it's easier to form a straight line of bodies by using an existing line on the ground, defences would probably play offside traps right onto this goal area line more often than not, thus making it a lot easier for officials to spot offsides too.
Just a shame this idea would still not improve Forest's attack/defence one jot. the offside rule.
http://www.localdia...mermaid/offside.htm [po, Jan 07 2006]
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It's just as well as Mr. Gump is likely a little too old for rigorous play these days. |
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Sorry, I can't figure out if you're talking cricket or polo here. |
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its in a soccer category? me neither but then I'm half asleep. |
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In my very, very brief intermural "soccer" experience, I scored 2 goals that were negated by the offsides rule. |
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If the forkin' defenders can't keep up with you, why should I pay? |
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An ignorant yanks opinion only. |
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Yes it's soccer (football) - sorry - I didn't realise that sub-category wouldn't be easy to spot - have changed the title to suit. |
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Po, thanks for the link, almost as good an explanation of the (normal) offside rule as Garth Crooks gave to Mr Blobby 10 years ago. ; ) |
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No no no, you don't get it at all [boysparks]. Offside is to avoid boring play (a player waiting near the goal, a defender joining him and they just stand there for 90 minutes) With your suggestion you just move the problem instead of solving it as the offside rules do now. |
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[zeno], I know what offside is for, which is why I'm not proposing its total abolition, and as a (poorly skilled) left back I've been part of many a failed trap; it's just that it actually seems to frustrate play a lot of the time rather than promote it. Even when a well timed (i.e. just onside) run is executed by a forward it's often a matter of chance whether or not the flag will go up. Man marking as you describe still happens, but at the moment usually nearer the halfway line. The idea that an offside zone still exists is to frustrate the kind of hanging around near the goal that you describe. One could argue that the current offside rule just moves the problem rather than actually solving it too. |
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My proposition is really that, in the way that you can't currently be offside in your own half, why not simply extend the 'offside-free' zone some way into the opponent's' half? The actual boundary does seem arbitrary. If it was moved 10 yards into the opponents half would play become more or less boring? 15 yards? 20 yards? , etc - the halfway line may not be the optimum. I only chose the edge of the goal area as a new boundary because it's a line that already exists, but if that's too close to goal a quarter pitch/third pitch/other line could do it. I honestly think that if play was a little less compressed at times there'd be more flow to the game. I do get it, I just wouldn't mind seeing what happened if it was tinkered with a bit. |
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//just stand there for 90 minutes// Actually, zeno I may have a subconscious desire not to move as far up the pitch as I currently do just to hastily (wheezily)track back again because we never manage to keep a straight line. :-) |
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They have this kind of thing in hockey. It's called a blue line. |
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Why not compromise and have it half-way between the edge of the area and the halfway line? |
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Just more opportunity for Chelsea to tear the opposition limb from limb. It's a cakewalk at the moment; don't play into our hands. |
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You will not soon see a player lurking at the halfway line. If he gets the ball he still has to cover the distance to the goal and will most likely not make it uninterupted. If the line is any closer to the goal it will become an option to try and lurk untill an unforseen outbreak can be sneeked through, the percetage of succes would go up dramatically for every inch the line is moved. |
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Up untill now I had the kind of professional fussbal you see on television in mind when judging your idea. |
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I understand now that it could work well for lower class play where people just want to have fun, but then you could just say: let's do away with offside and agree not to lurk allright? |
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