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Electromagnetic Saw Structure
The plate (silicon ? ) would have holes that are
permeable side to side by gas
( made with circuitry photolithography techniques ) .
The holes or pipes
( for cross-section think cookie cutter teddy bear or heart )
have cathode and anode terminals embedded along
the inside .
Also embedded in the holes are tiny taint materials generating magnetic fields .
The arrangement of terminals of specific voltages and alignment of magnetic
field flows act like a cheese wire and cleaves the carbon dioxide to
cabon4+ and 2o2- .
The electronic and magnetic dynamic grate shape would be CO2 specific .
The other gasses would flow though only slightly disturbed by the changing
potentials and magnetic geography .
A differential of gas pressure on either side of plate may
increase through rate of CO2 .
Method Theory
As the carbon dioxide flows through the plate in the hole ,
the placement of terminals and shape of hole ( atomic structure of hole )
effects the electrons in the CO2 allowing the
electrons to have wave equations that weaken bonds .
The magnetic fields hold this state temporarily allowing other terminals
to supply an electron voltage adequate enough to cleave bonds and
draw atoms apart .( Think electronic zipper being unzipped )
Problems
Knowing the correct keying pattern
(major , but that's why invented modern desktop PCs can be networked )
The build up of diamond encrustation (maybe a better sand paper material)
Getting rid of obsolete catalytic plates . ( always a chore )
Last word
A Wiser, lazyer domination would be to grow autotrophs
- autotrophs supply food, fuel, antibiotics, act as a weather buffer and
nature can clean up after .
;-)
Artificial Photosynthesis
http://www.pubmedce...ntrez&artid=1299279
The chlorophyll analogue, a light-absorbing organic ruthenium complex, is deposited in a thin matrix layer made of nanocrystalline titanium dioxide. [mayihave, Aug 13 2007]
[link]
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Sore carbon dioxide? What does "sore" mean in this context? |
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sore is the past tense of saw |
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This is an electromagnetic cheese wire cutter that chops up gas in a teddy-bear shaped tube, spitting out diamonds and pure oxygen. Right? |
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Is this intended as a way of removing CO2?
If so, although I don't follow all steps in
the argument, you are going to have to put
in a lot of energy. Specifically, you will
have to put in at least as much energy as
you would have gotten from burning the
carbon to CO2 in the first place. |
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If I get the gist, this is sort of a
microelectronic analogue of an enzyme. I
don't think it'll do what you want it to. |
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I actually bit on that "sore as past tense of saw". I spent a few minutes just now with the OED and those fine and ancient words. One of the definitions of "sore" is "a red herring". Really! |
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The past tense of saw is seed. |
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A saw small enough to cut molecules apart is made from what, may I ask? |
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Yes - an Architectually designed enzyme .
Nature does things disorderly , so why can't a unnatural aberrant order be found that is less energetical costly .
Cars drive in the street to rules not brownian motion .
A molecular saw's teeth is made from the patterns of waves of the stuff photons are made .
I think CO2 would be sore if it had its electron skin peeled off . |
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I understand what you are doing - it is effectively a mass spectrometer. If the elements were fired against seperated metal plates then you could recover some of the power used as it would act like a battery, and it would only produce a sooty residue. Unfortunately it might be baked - I saw something very similar in New Scientist for reducing carbon emissions in cars. |
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[xandram]: //sorry, [bungy] // |
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But what's this supposed to *do*? |
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hah, good one[Jin], I actually knew someone who pronounced it that way. |
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// why can't a unnatural aberrant order
be found that is less energetical
costly// Because, alas, of the laws of
thermodynamics. If you want to rip
apart a CO2 molecule, you have to put
in the requisite amount of energy,
which is (given perfect efficiency), the
same as that obtained by burning
carbon to make CO2. |
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How you split the CO2 doesn't matter.
You can do it enzymically (as plants do),
or by using very small tweezers in the
shape of a sturgeon's snout if you
prefer. |
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Enzymes and other catalysts just lower
the activation energy for a process, ie
they reduce the height of the "energy
hill" you have to get over. But the total
journey (from starting point to end
point) is the same, regardless of the
height of the intervening hill. A little
elementary thermodynamics can save
you from embarrassing yourself in this
way. |
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When you need to break CO2 , you have to pay the price . Hopefully the system is as close to the perfect efficiency as possible . Mathematically chrunching the numbers could find the orientations to produce perfect steps to the path . Enzymes have evolved through random chance to be efficent catalysts . Can a designed barebones path be engineered ? |
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Nature makes a river , man designs a pipeline . |
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//Enzymes have evolved through
random chance to be efficent catalysts .
Can a designed barebones path be
engineered ?// |
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Paths don't get much more barebones
than those catalyzed by enzymes. For
an exothermic reaction (ie, one which is
going down an energy slope), enzymes
waste little if any energy - i.e. the
energetics of the reaction are the same
as the uncatalysed reaction (what
changes, of course, is the rate). |
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For an endothermic reaction (such as
splitting CO2), the reaction has to be
coupled to some energy source. In the
case of photosynthesis, this involves a
cascade of enzymes which catch
photons and couple their energy into
the CO2 splitting reaction via several
intermediate steps. Photosynthesis is
reasonably efficient compared to other
techniques for harvesting solar energy. |
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You may well come up with a more
efficient means of capturing solar
energy, but I'm not clear from your idea
where the energy input is coming from.
What are "taint magenets", for starters? |
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An elephant, now a fish beak. Entertaining and informative -Thank you [Max] |
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sorry, dozed off there during the subtitle... |
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I was about to MFD this but I re-read it and it appears like it might work. It's a little poorly worded is all. //effectively a mass spectrometer// has it. A really really teensy one. |
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You still need energy input. |
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////effectively a mass spectrometer// |
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In what way? I don't get that. |
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Sorey, off-topic, glishen not my mother tong.
One ting I noe four shore:
past tense of saw is
'I saw what you sorta saw lest a-summer'. |
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Baked.
Search the article link at PubMedCentral for
another branch of research known as ‘artificial photosynthesis’ (AP). |
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Enzymes can't be purely efficient because of their constraint of manufacture and implementation by DNA and protein synthesis and historical evolution.
Man can design purely on the knowledge of an CO2 electron bond .
We can design the feed system to the reaction site . |
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The idea (from link) that the plate could be placed in the sun and the 'taint' atoms transfer photocatalytic energy *through the magic of between atom/electron energy transfer * sounds stable . |
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If a % of people in the globe (ones with houses) put one on their roof , no more C02 hothouse problem .
(still - a green leafy roof seems better solution but not as sexy as a new tech science gadget solution ) |
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//Chip Tech , architecturally designed CO2 catalyst// |
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"Oh, no - it's Chip Tech! He's the sharpest enzyme in town!" |
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"That's right, punk. I saw you mug that passerby just now, and I'm gonna make you sorey you did." |
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Chip Tech is a dark and deeply troubled superhero . |
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On the one hand , holding force that can weld and unweld electrons at will
on a molecular scale and on the other
the burden of complex living natural loss that gave existance to this power .
How can this superhero fight natures loss with early 21st century tools that
for their own construction destroy nature ? |
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Will Chip Tech survive this stacked game quandry ? |
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Will the world become too I-sorey ?
Only the future will unfold |
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Backing way up and examining this scheme from altitude, it is a metal catalyst. On a molecular level, it seems to me that this is a catalytic converter, not radically different from any other. |
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Reading this idea, it is not entirely clear to me what the products will be good for, or what will become of them. I think the idea was to just destroy CO2. Both products will be very reactive, and will react with each other and regenerate the CO2 unless given more suitable partners. If this process is meant to combat global warming, you will need bargeloads of those suitable partners. Metallic iron would work to sequester the oxygen as rust. Maybe the carbon could react with itself and make diamonds. |
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