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Tapas hat of Japanese culture learning

Domo arigato.
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Hat filled with tapas
Bows encourage good feedback
Enjoy. Doff and scoff.
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009

How to make a Nacho hat. http://forums.somet...hp?threadid=3144010
State of the art for edible headwear. [jutta, Sep 17 2009]

I suppose Zeno would think *this* is offensive, too. http://www.chindogu...chindogu/chin3.html
Never mind that it was *invented* by an Asian. [21 Quest, Sep 17 2009]

I suppose this is racist, as well. http://www.chindogu...chindogu/chin8.html
[21 Quest, Sep 17 2009]

A history of eating in public http://books.google...in%20public&f=false
This link is to page 119 of a much more extensive read [21 Quest, Sep 17 2009]

Avenue Q http://www.stlyrics...littlebitracist.htm
[theleopard, Sep 18 2009]

apropos of baseball caps… http://scienceblogs...ture_of_the_day.php
with the caption "I sure wish someone would invent something to keep the sun out of my eyes." [Ian Tindale, Sep 19 2009]

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       racist and offensive
zeno, Sep 17 2009
  

       Tapas is Spanish
At least that is what I thought.
Don't they eat Sushi?
zen_tom, Sep 17 2009
  

       I think Japanese people probably know their own culture. This is for foreigners, hence the hat is filled with olives, peanuts, cheese nibbles or whatever the foreign culture considers tapas (bar snacks).
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009
  

       [+] just for "doff and scoff". But what does it have to do with Japan or learning? Is it to encourage bowing, which would put treats within locals' reach, thus making one popular? Kinda naive, Bigs.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       2nd line - bowing. [edit] And yes simplistic in the sense that bowing *is* actually intended to please others.
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009
  

       If you have food on your hat, and you bow, doesn't it fall off?
jutta, Sep 17 2009
  

       [jutta] In my research I did come across a traditional japanese paper hat that had the necessary rim, but to link to a "Simpsons did it" episode I haven't seen yet, well that's just a spoiler. Anyways, the idea is about charity rather than gluttony.
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009
  

       [jutta] - gimbals, or sticky food. It's the flocks of hungry pigeons and seagulls I'd be worried about.
hippo, Sep 17 2009
  

       This makes me sick. How can you people pander to this bigoted moron? [bigsleep] you should be ashamed of yourself, you evil little Hitler wannabe. Can't you leave other cultures alone? Diversity is what makes our species beautiful but you just want everyone to conform by ridiculing foreigners with your sarcastic and petulant haiku. Both the Japanese and Spanish peoples have been deeply wronged this day.   

       I urge you to delete this racist garbage before your name is forever sullied in the annals of historical jingoistic bastards. You massive cock.
theleopard, Sep 17 2009
  

       I think there should be a world diversity council, ensuring that every people has the same amount of diversity.
Ian Tindale, Sep 17 2009
  

       Wouldn't that be discrimination against conformists ?
8th of 7, Sep 17 2009
  

       I don't understand the claims of racist, is that sarcasm? Further, the Japanese do not think it polite to eat in public, nor upon meeting new people. They would gladly take the hat home and eat there.
dentworth, Sep 17 2009
  

       //Wouldn't that be discrimination against conformists ?//   

       Now there's an idea..   

       I feel an idea coming on.
Twizz, Sep 17 2009
  

       Perhaps if was filled with cheese it would attract fewer claims of racism? As it stands... well, it's just a festering sore of petulant anti-Nipponism on the soft underbelly of an otherwise tolerant and peaceful society. [marked-for-deletoin], offensive bigotry.   

       Go outside and shake yourself, you horrible little man.
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       I've just been sick in my hands after rereading this Nazi propaganda. In fact, I find this kind of xenophobic ignorance so repugnant, I didn't even have to reread it. Its existence was enough to make me violently puke. Just delete your account now.
theleopard, Sep 17 2009
  

       so far as I can see this is based on ignorance of the culture; and once receiving the disapproving stares from the people he would "learn" you don't wear food on your head in Japan... so perhaps it is for learning after all.
dentworth, Sep 17 2009
  

       Nonsense. He knows exactly what he's doing, or my real name isn't Mosley.
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       and you spelled deletion mosley right.   

       edit: spelled and spelt are used in American English
dentworth, Sep 17 2009
  

       //I've just been sick in my hands after rereading this Nazi propaganda// [marked-for-tagline]
hippo, Sep 17 2009
  

       Look, guys, I have a question here. Is anybody who's claiming that this is racist actually Japanese, or in fact ever been to Japan? I lived in Okinawa, Japan for 4 years, from 1997-2001, and I can attest to the fact that the people there have a wonderful sense of humor and aren't as easily offended as you guys seem to assume they would be by this. They seem to be charmed by the antics of silly American tourists more than irritated. They don't like eating in public!? My ass they don't! They've got vending machines on every street corner! They'd probably get a freakin' kick out of this. What do you guys think this is, a meeting of the Anti-Defamation League? Quit getting so offended on other peoples' behalf, they usually don't appreciate it.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       You got a link for that, [21Q]?
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       //spelled deletion //   

       You're kidding me?
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       Don't need a damn link for this. And I'm still not sure if 'massive cock' was intended as a compliment or insult. It could go both ways, really.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       fnarr fnarr.
Ian Tindale, Sep 17 2009
  

       4 years in Oki.... were you stationed there, [21Q]?
CaptainClapper, Sep 17 2009
  

       I don't think the link needs to be terribly relevant, does it? Any sort of link should do the trick.   

       As for the massive cock... Maybe it's just an obese rooster. Probably best not to offend it, either way? You know, let sleeping cocks lie. Most of them will, anyway.
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       //4 years in Oki.... were you stationed there, [21Q]//   

       Yup. Kadena Airbase. And I absolutely loved it.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       yes, 21 they don't like to eat in public. more specifically not eating while walking, we lived there 4 years also. saw the vending machines. Americans loved them, I seldom saw Japanese people eating outside, possibly sitting at a train station drinking a cold coffee from a can. but seldom. Since they have McDonalds, the culture has probably changed a lot since I was there.   

       I do agree they would not be offended by this but it would reinforce the perceptions that Americans do food in a big way.
dentworth, Sep 17 2009
  

       //it would reinforce the perceptions that Americans do food in a big way.//   

       But we do. And don't get me started on the cold canned coffee. That shit was nasty. They did have hot can machines available, though, as I recall. I remember i used to see workmen eating from their bento boxes on stairs and benches, during their lunch breaks. Didn't seem much different from here, really. Sure, they were generally a little less obnoxious, but they ate in public.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       [21Q] - fellow airman here, good on you :)
CaptainClapper, Sep 17 2009
  

       Wow, what over-reactions. Yet another idea I thought was self explanatory but even after adding a couple of annos, still hugely misunderstood.   

       The idea is that people can start to learn how to bow to each other (like the japanese) by food motivation. You bow, someone gets a treat, they bow and you get a treat. The circle is complete.   

       // nazi, racist, bigoted //   

       Oh come on, mildy disrespectful at best. If anything, this idea is making fun of those using the hat.
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009
  

       @21/not to belabor the point too much, but you lived in Okinawa and I lived up near Tokyo. could account for somewhat different experiences.
dentworth, Sep 17 2009
  

       Why Tapas? I'm afraid this is what is secretly pissing everyone off... Tapas should not be grouped with the gamut of shitty Americanized appetizers. Tapas is its own thing. Its Spanish and good and you order a bunch of them in place of dinner and drink sangria until you're sick. That's Tapas. If you want a dozen Buffalo wings in a hat so people can mock Japanese culture, just say so.
daseva, Sep 17 2009
  

       I think it's cute [+] except the title which should be "Karaoke Kuisine"... and the haiku which is pointless. Gotta watch out for lower back pain though.
FlyingToaster, Sep 17 2009
  

       Post short on detail
Bones indicate bad feedback
Baked. Doc Pavlov.
egbert, Sep 17 2009
  

       When you bow, it's not just a single dip - it generally is two or three times down so that each person can figure just exactly how low they need to go to be just the right amount higher/lower than the other according to position in the social hierarchy. Also taking into consideration height, age, posture, relative amounts of rheumatism, etc.   

       So in order to get it right, you need to be able to see the other person out of your peripheral vision while you're at perigee. A hat would interfere.
lurch, Sep 17 2009
  

       I know very little television, but is this an "Ugly Betty" reference? Or has the food actually preceded the tv show?
normzone, Sep 17 2009
  

       intended to please
jingoistic massive cock
against conformists
Ian Tindale, Sep 17 2009
  

       Egbert, your Haiku   

       Falls short on syllable count.   

       Line 3, try again.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       No no, 21. It is understood that two syllables are in 'baked', read 'bak-ed'. Like Shakespeare did with the infamous 'banish-ed'.
daseva, Sep 17 2009
  

       this sounds like fusion
not anymore racist than
california roll
jaksplat, Sep 17 2009
  

       "Bak-ed! Be mercifull, say death : Such excise hath more terror in his looke, Much more then death : do not say bak-ed."
egbert, Sep 17 2009
  

       What would all sane men,
Of the Orient do here?
Fight for each sardine?
UnaBubba, Sep 17 2009
  

       Sane orientals   

       Would handle it quite nicely.   

       They'd smile and bow.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       //massive cock//
I don't suppose we could tagline that, could we ?
FlyingToaster, Sep 17 2009
  

       I've had a hard time desemenating Tindales haiku. If I'm a massive cock, then he's an arse. Now where does that leave us ? Same time and place next week Ian ?
bigsleep, Sep 17 2009
  

       This is all brilliant, thank you halfbakery for the best laugh today.
tatterdemalion, Sep 17 2009
  

       Look, many religious people, christians, catholics and the likes put their hands together in prayer. Why don't we post an idea to put a hotdog between those hands so that the nonbelievers have something to nibble on while they wait for the amen? Why don't we suggest that a praying muslim could be a very good moving resting place for our feet? Because that would be offensive, that's why.   

       If you make a really nice and funny joke about it, it could be interpreted as making fun of others in a nice way while you are actually promoting respect and acceptance of other cultures. This is just racist bullshit.
zeno, Sep 17 2009
  

       //This is just racist bullshit.//   

       No, it's not. Are you Japanese? If so, have you ever lived in Japan? Have you ever seen Most Extreme Elimination Challenge? Have you seen how the youth culture dresses in Japan? Are you in any way familiar with the art of Chindogu? I'm assuming that the answer to all these questions is a resounding NO. They're not as stuffy and traditional as you seem to think.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       //just racist bullshit//
... so I guess I can't count on your vote for "Hawaiian Grass Skirt Floor Polisher" then... awww
  

       but I do see your point; the idea's quite good, it's the Category, Title, Summary and Description that suck.
FlyingToaster, Sep 17 2009
  

       Or "Metal Hula-Hoop Booster Antenna" for cellphones? Well shit... that just plain sucks.
21 Quest, Sep 17 2009
  

       I never said japanese were stuffy and traditional, the point is I am stuffy and traditional. I don't care what the japanese think of this idea, I am voicing my own opinion instead of trying to think for an entire people.
zeno, Sep 18 2009
  

       Other cultures, in fact, all cultures, perhaps more so the western-influenced ones, shouldn't have to live for respect or acceptance. Diverse cultures exist. Why do they require respecting, or accepting, or even this silly tendency of 'preserving'? I have no respect or acceptance of my own culture nor do I recognise any need or requirement that I respect or accept other cultures. They're all simply just arbitrary ways of doing things. Which way is the correct way? If none of them are, then why pick the way that you're presently doing?   

       Is it merely laziness or oppression or lack of imagination? Preserving other cultures would be disastrous - trying to impose a 'freezing' of state of behavioural arbitrary response patterns. But then perhaps some cultures prize that stasis. Perhaps they're wrong to do so. Most cultures are probably doing a lot wrong - after all, they didn't arrive at what they do through some sort of higher set of authoritative prescriptive instructions (unless you count out religion, which is fictional).   

       All it is is a set of human beings making decisions, embedding or publishing those decisions, and everyone else living according to those decisions. They might easily be wrong, and I think we have to operate under the basis that all cultures have most stuff wrong, otherwise we'll never progress as a species.   

       The illusion that one culture or other is 'advanced' or 'developing' is utterly false - we're all developing and we're all making colossal cultural mistakes. Maybe it's the job of cultures to point out such mistakes to each other so that they can get past their ridiculousness and be ok. After all, we all want the same thing deep down. Well, not the same individual instance of that thing, but lots of things like that. Life's motivations as a human being are in common.   

       Governance of groups of people or societies should be there for the same reason. Some cultures are simply getting this wrong. Western culture, for example, is wildly over-emphasising the self and the individual to the detriment of even the basic reason for an individual self to exist.   

       Other cultures are similarly wrong. Taking the piss out of other cultures is probably what we're supposed to be doing, and preserving or treating them as precious is probably the last thing that should be done. After all, cultures are not static - they might seem so from our range of view of a handful of generations, but that's really not such a long timespan. Everything will change.
Ian Tindale, Sep 18 2009
  

       btw, my haiku isn't mine - it's made from sampled snippets already present in the preceding texts.
Ian Tindale, Sep 18 2009
  

       I disagree with a lot of what you just said, Ian. That said, I respect and accept your right and desire to have and express an opinion that differs from my own... my God, that sounded sappy, didn't it?
21 Quest, Sep 18 2009
  

       Yes, it did.
coprocephalous, Sep 18 2009
  

       Without your right to be wrong, what's left?
Ian Tindale, Sep 18 2009
  

       A lot has been made of my "massive cock" so I'd just like to clarify my view point on this. I thought [zeno] was so off the mark with his ultra-liberal PC put-down on this completely inoffensive idea that I waded in with what I hoped was obvious over-exaggeration. Seeing other's responses, I needed to up the absurdity by being sick everywhere. Still no dice.   

       So, I don't think you're a massive cock [bigsleep], I only said that in the hope you would find it utterly unjustified and as such a falsity.   

       I'm not fond of the idea – food in my hair sounds horrid. But to call this idea racist is such a sanctimonious holier-than-thou waste of everybody's time that I piped up hoping to emphasise such a statement's inanity.   

       I've linked to a song for you [zeno]. It's from Avenue Q, a Broadway Sesame Street parody that makes fun of "issues".
theleopard, Sep 18 2009
  

       You and [hippo] seemed to be the only two to get it!
theleopard, Sep 18 2009
  

       I wouldn't say *completely* inoffensive, and I'd either grimace or smirk if I came across a similar bastardization of my own culture(s), but IMHO it doesn't come anywhere near a "racist" call.
FlyingToaster, Sep 18 2009
  

       The problem with the word "offensive" is that what qualifies as being offensive is completely subjective. So if just one person finds something offensive, then, at least to that person, it is. Similarly, though, if at least one person feels that something isn't offensive, then, at least to that person, it's not.   

       There's only one way to resolve the issue....FIGHT!!!
zen_tom, Sep 18 2009
  

       But surely it's clear to everyone that the person who finds stuff offensive when others don't is obviously wrong - they're demonstrating a non-universal aberrance. Equally, the person who finds things not offensive when someone else does, is clearly wrong. Or just fucking weird. But the point is, you're all wrong. Everyone is. All the time.
Ian Tindale, Sep 18 2009
  

       Thank you that was a very funny song. Sorry to come across as such an ass, it's just because I am.
zeno, Sep 18 2009
  

       //the point is, you're all wrong. Everyone is. All the time//   

       True enough, hence the fighting requirement -   

       Alternately, we could virtualise the fight, giving each person who's interested, an equivalent weight in our simulation, and call it Democracy - for our purposes here, maybe we could then normalise the result into a single numeric and then abstract that into some kind of icon representing a number of baked goods and/or fish skeletons?
zen_tom, Sep 18 2009
  

       //True enough// - surely you mean "No, you fool, you're wrong!" - if you agree with a statement like "the point is, you're all wrong. Everyone is. All the time", you're sucked into a scary vortex of paradoxical semantics. But then again, of course, in making this suggestion I too must be wrong...
hippo, Sep 18 2009
  

       // Without your right to be wrong, what's left? // [marked-for-... something noteworthy I can't think of right now
tatterdemalion, Sep 18 2009
  

       What everyone seems to be missing here is the disgraceful treatment of the hat. bigsleep seems to be saying that the hat is only good for storing your food in, which is a terrible and offensive caricature of hats and head gear in general. I'm shocked. Deeply shocked.
DrBob, Sep 18 2009
  

       //...what's left//   

       If you're facing south, the east.
CaptainClapper, Sep 18 2009
  

       Hats have become disenfranchised in modern society, In the late 40s, and especially the 50s and 60s, hats were worn by all and sundry... magnificent fedoras and homburgs were the order of the day.   

       It was the trend towards effeminate hairstyles in the 1970s that signified the end. Men, afraid of developing hat hair, eschewed hats and went bareheaded. In short, they put their poofy hairstyles ahead of the dignity of their faithful companions and servants, hats.   

       By the 90s, the baseball cap had all but replaced the hat. Caps are not real hats, as they don't protect the ears. Now, heaven forbid, even they are worn backward by most "role models", making a mockery of the once proud hat.   

       I'm with you all of the way, [DrBob]. It's a bloody disgrace.
UnaBubba, Sep 18 2009
  

       For what it's worth, I got it, leopardman.
RayfordSteele, Sep 18 2009
  

       I'm waiting for backwards baseball caps to be worn backwards as a new cool fashion.
hippo, Sep 18 2009
  

       They've got to go through upside-down facing forwards, then upside-down facing backwards first.
Ian Tindale, Sep 18 2009
  

       UnaBubba, surely you won't talk about the history of hats without mentioning J.F.K. He made the hatless head what it is today.
daseva, Sep 18 2009
  

       Of course, JFK was one of the early hat-hair-fearin' folks that started it all.   

       You do realise that was the reason he and Bobby were assassinated, don't you? The American Hatters' Association mere as mad as hell about the snub, and they weren't gonna take it any more.
UnaBubba, Sep 18 2009
  

       I have been getting funny **Lois** ahem - Looks!** on the train in to London cos I have tears running down my face. Well done [theleopard]!
gnomethang, Sep 19 2009
  

       What has funny Lois been doing to you [gnome]? Nothing to do with massive cocks, I hope.
UnaBubba, Sep 19 2009
  

       That's what's funny about her.
hippo, Sep 19 2009
  

       UnaBubba, - see well-timed link, re baseball caps!
Ian Tindale, Sep 19 2009
  

       Damn! That's what I'm talkin' bout!
UnaBubba, Sep 19 2009
  

       Ooops! - fat fingered the iPhone!.
gnomethang, Sep 20 2009
  

       I showed the picture of the guy in the ballcap to some coworkers, and some of them couldn't stop laughing. The pathetic majority, however, didn't understand what was so funny.
21 Quest, Sep 20 2009
  

       1. Who is **Lois**?
2. Why do all the really big buttheads come from Illinois? (Ian's link. Poor guy is now infamous on the web as a ditz.)
blissmiss, Sep 20 2009
  

       Asshattery defined.
egbert, Sep 20 2009
  

       Actually, with just an edit of one letter, you could change this idea to portray a way of recycling old technology to play Japanese Language and culture tapes in a manner that keeps your equipment out of the way.
Ian Tindale, Sep 21 2009
  

       Next week: Barbecue Helmet of Third Reich Indoctrination.
Ian Tindale, Sep 25 2009
  

       Papa's Rat Of Javanese Yearning Vulture
UnaBubba, Sep 25 2009
  
      
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