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True-to-life Photographs
What do they look like now?
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Photographs are static. There is no way, looking at a photograph which was taken 20 years ago of someone, to determine how they might look now.

A frame with a reasonably sophisticated computer and software built in could 'age' the subject of a digital photograph. This would be very useful for someone who is away from their loved ones for an extended period, like Antarctic research scientists. They could watch their kids growing up while they are away from them.

It could equally be applied to landscape shots, showing trees with autumn colour, spring growth, slow increase in height etc. at appropriate times of the year.


UnaBubba, Aug 21 2001

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       Reverse-aging software would be nice as well. I'd like to see what my grandparents looked like in their camera-scarce younger days.

The Military, Aug 21 2001
  

       Good point. That never even occurred to me when I thought this one up.

UnaBubba, Aug 21 2001
  

       Ten years younger and ten lbs. heavier.

(in reference to "the camera adds ten pounds")

AfroAssault, Aug 21 2001, last modified Aug 22 2001
  

       ten years older and twenty pounds heavier - forty if you're a couch Potato

thumbwax, Aug 21 2001
  

       I'd like to see the reverse-aging software applied to the landscape around my home. The Appalachian Mountains are among the world's oldest, with peaks at 4,000 - 6,000 feet and valleys at 2,000. But they supposedly once looked like the Alps. I'd also like to see the forward-aging software applied to Florida's coastline.

beauxeault, Aug 21 2001
  

       Isn't this already baked by crime-busters like the F.B.I.? I remember a tv show here in the states wherein a computer model was used to depict what the suspect might have looked like at that point in time, some years after his crime wa purportedly comitted. The imaging software was used to add age and weight to an image of a photo taken years before. "America's Most Wanted," I think it was.

snarfyguy, Aug 21 2001
  

       This could be interesting, BX... what will Venice be like in 100 years? The problem then will be to write the programming with just enough AI to extrapolate for itself, rather than some programmer's biased opinion of what things should look like in the future.

UnaBubba, Aug 21 2001
  

       That's the concept [SG]. The difference here is the computer built into the photo frame and the fact that it does it without subjective input.

UnaBubba, Aug 22 2001
  

       I wonder if you could 'educate' a program for this purpose by scanning in pictures of young people (for which you had corresponding pictures of the same person at age) and then letting the program produce a variety of artificially aged images. You select the one which best matches the actual photograph, repeating the process over and over until the program settles on a best-fit set of aging algorithims. Of course a programmer would have to supply the program with a set of wrinkling, puffing, sagging, and greying functions, but hey that's *easy*, right? <snickers>

Dog Ed, Aug 22 2001
  

       I like it. I'm looking forward to being a grizzled old codger and I'd love a little sneaky peek. Also, I keep thinking "The Snapshot of Dorian Gray", for some reason.

Guy Fox, Aug 22 2001
  

       It nearly brings me to tears when I think about what Venice may be like in 100 (or even fewer) years.

beauxeault, Aug 22 2001
  

       Waugs, there's no shame in therapy.

UnaBubba, Aug 22 2001
  

       Also no shame in idiosyncrasies.

Dog Ed, Aug 22 2001
  

       Before you could age the person accurately, you'd need to know all kinds of details about their lives - e.g. whether they're a smoker, exposure to sun, diet, exercise etc. I could look completely different in a few year's time based on whether I decide to live off pizza on my sofa whilst smoking heavily, or do something sensible instead.   

       If you didn't take account of these factors, the result could be completely wrong.   

       Croissant though, intriguing idea.

-alx, Aug 22 2001
  

       The trained AI should accept input on these sorts of parameters, but be able to generate a best guess if the information is unavailable. It seems to me that it would be quite difficult to design an input device for a photo frame; I favour a software solution.

jabbers, Aug 22 2001
  

       You get my croissant if it includes a utility where I can speed it up/slow it down at whatever speed I want. I can watch foetuses turn into old wrinkly potato people in seconds. I think if you stuck it in a loop like that (foetus, potato, foetus, potato et cetera...) and placed it above your mantle piece, well, ...you'd have one disturbing adornment right there.

sdm, Aug 23 2001
  

       That could keep Dorian Gray *really* young.

wiml, Aug 23 2001
  

       Of course you can. A USB port in the frame for software uploads or an RJ45 port so you can hook it into your LAN and make it a seperate network device (fine if your house is wired with several dozen network points and a decent 100 Mbps hub like mine). This would tie in nicely if PeterSealy's hallway mirror sported image capture technology, say high speed 300 dpi scanning capability.

UnaBubba, Aug 23 2001
  

       I suppose using ultra high speed space age technology, you could mount a digital camera above it, and view a video of yourself one hundred years from now.

sdm, Aug 23 2001
  

       [sdm], mind explaining how that would work?

UnaBubba, Aug 23 2001
  

       OK UnaBubba, that was me being fantastical. You would affix a webcam like the one people have on top of their monitor to the photo frame. Some sophisticated software and hardware, scan for people, age them x years, and spit the results back into the picture frame at a rate of 21 times a second. There you have it! A video of yourself, plus x years.

sdm, Aug 23 2001
  

       That's more like it. Thanks.

UnaBubba, Aug 23 2001
  
      
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