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Is there much work, turing pianos, these days? |
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Presumably based on a player piano, with an infinitely long roll, and its own perforator? |
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I had dinner on the balcony, with Al Fresco, why do you ask. |
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AbsintheWithoutLeave, - probably not based on any 'linear' pre-programming such as player piano logic. More likely a considerable quantity of brass cogs and gears, to ascertain algorithmic progress of future offerings based on what's been played so far. Thus, at the beginning of the piece, no limiting factors are in force, and you can play any old rubbish you like. As more notes are played, the logic and structure and pacing of the tune becomes 'apparent' to the piano's engine, and it strives to offer trend-managed limitations to keep the composition flowing in the 'correct' direction as it were. |
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If the piano has access to a sufficiently large library of music, and if it assumes that you are playing music from that library, then by the time you've got a few notes into the piece there will be no choice of what can be played next - it will be either a single note or a selection of notes to be played as a chord. This can be represented as a single piano key which will be repeatedly pressed by the player, who is now free to concentrate on tempo and doesn't have to worry about pressing the right keys. |
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The receding of the unused keys makes sense, but...after the keys "Rearrange" themselves, how does the pianist know which key is which? |
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Although, the piano would also have picked up the tempo by then, and can handle that bit itself, too. |
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I was thinking more the other way - it's a composition aid, so that it lets you explore the harmonic spaces by interacting with a machine with a level of 'machine intelligence' rather than just an instrument. The music domain being perhaps a suitable arena whereby the notation and logic are strict enough to be encompassed by machine logic, leaving the expression to the completely free abstract application as a whole, of this restricted space. |
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I hear there's a lot of work in tuning touring pianos. |
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Why mechanical? How is this turing? |
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If the piano was somehow able to make comments regarding the ability of the player and the player answered back ---- well that would be madness... |
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[hippo] If the piano based its commentary on existing music it is not necessarily the case that only an exact copy of something in the library would receive highest praise (although it should receive praise). The highest praise goes to something new that is derived from what has gone before. |
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Still if the player said thank you they would be mad... |
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I love the fact that this is a purely mechanical piano. With a few alterations to a standard weighted keyboard plus a computer to analyse the notes and decide what notes to 'un-elevate', this could almost be made at home. But no, this has got to be based on the Difference Engine and is therefore beautiful, enormous and strictly in the realms of fantasy. Truly, madly, deeply halfbaked. [+] |
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Well if it was making comments... I think a yoda style might be appropriate, "Hmmmm pianst be you would think not me" |
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Kind of like miming to a CD, but for fingers. Just look out for those long glissandos, they're a dead giveaway. |
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In the great tradition of amazing automata, the same effect could be achieved by disconnecting the keyboard completely, and installing a litle wizard with a tiny piano underneath. The exact piece to play could be communicated in Morse code via the piano pedals, or (for those with smaller repertoires) by a system of kicks. |
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Loses the baroque madness, of course. But would be cheaper. One for the cut-price Rajah, perhaps. |
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Hang on... //a composition aid//? How, [IT]? You're assuming that the 'logic' of whatever you're playing is identifiable, which is fine for, say, pop songs which have a pretty rigid structure, but is gonna be tricky for something more interesting. I'd dispute the idea that music is quite as structured as you suggest - I haven't yet come across any decent silicon composers, anyway. |
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I think mine's broken - it keeps making me play "chopsticks". |
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moomintroll, - yes, you could do that if
you happen to have a very small pianist. |
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You can Turing a piano, but you can't Turing a fish. |
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After Turings it goes into answering
machine. |
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What's a Grecian Urn?, about $5.75 plus tips. USD |
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I don't understand half of the discussion on this idea. I'd like my piano keys to stay right where I left them thanks,I know where they are without looking and if they regroup, as [robinism]says, there would be chaos. |
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//pictures eyeballs on the ends of my fingertips// |
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It's a long time between beeps, [wags]. |
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Now a Tourette's Piano, that would be interesting. Hit the wrong note and a discordant scream wails out curses at you. |
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Here you go Rayford, the amazing "Tourettaphone" (link). |
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Would this piano be suitable for playing in other Italian cities, like Milang? |
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