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When a user page is loaded (any user), it would be
convenient to
see, at the bottom of the Idea List, a Count of the number
of
Ideas posted by that user.
This Idea stems from laziness. My own Count is (at the
time of this writing) about 500,
but I don't want to scroll the page and manually
count them
to
find out the exact number. I'd probably lose count!
does this work?
http://www.halfbake...20ideas?op=editview
who can tell? [calum, Nov 27 2013]
Idea count for this page
javascript:alert(do...incat/g).length-1);
You can use this bookmarklet (it'll only work correctly if you're actually on a user page, though) [ytk, Nov 27 2013]
[link]
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I don't know if they teach estimating in schools any more, but the young woman who gave an hour presentation on the tactics somewhere around second grade made a forever change in my life. |
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In one minute, by eye I estimate 540. |
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[normzone], 500 IS the estimate that I made, based
on ideas in
one page-length, multiplied by number of pages, plus
a partial page. |
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Just make up a number, no-one will know whether you are right or wrong. |
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500+ club members should have their names in <blink> text at every
appearance on the site, even bracketed references. Don't you think
so, [Vernon]? |
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[V], knowing your propensity for efficiency: are you on low-res view ? |
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Only 351 ideas in 10 years. I'm just twiddling my
thumbs, dammit. |
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but if you decrease the font size enough the titles will end up on one line |
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[FlyingToaster], I have a very nice high-res display
(2048x1152), and my computer is set to use it fully.
All those Idea titles in my list easily fit one per line
on my display. The estimation of 500 was quite
easy and, if the "512" posted here by others is
correct (thank you!), then my estimate was
certainly in the ball-park. |
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Nevertheless, should someone want to browse the
User Pages, that person would quickly tire of even
making estimates of numbers of Ideas. |
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While I don't know how that List is pulled from the
overall HalfBakery database, I do know that in SQL
queries a "number of affected rows" is exactly as
available as the data-items pulled. (So if SQL is
used, it should be super-easy to Bake this
particular Idea.) |
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oh, don't thank me, thank [jutta]; I just clicked on it. |
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//Nevertheless, should someone want to browse the
User Pages, that person would quickly tire of even
making estimates of numbers of Ideas.// |
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You don't have to. Just drag the bookmarklet I added
to your toolbar (or otherwise make a bookmark of it)
and then you can just click on it while browsing a user
page to get the number of posted ideas. |
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So, Vernon is quite prolific but well short leaders like
[xenzag] who is nearing a thousand. When it comes
to the number of words, however... :) |
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// it would be convenient to see |
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Why? How is this information useful? |
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[tatterdemalion], see the subtitle: "Curiosity
Satisfier". "Usefulness" need not apply. This IS the
HalfBakery, right? |
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[ytk and FlyingToaster], I agree that the bookmarklet
works nice, but it is still
cumbersome in comparison to having the Idea count
simply be part of the overall page-display. |
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If you unflag the "By Author" filter in the first link, you get everybody's counts... some 6,000 users I estimate... |
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and of course Congratulations on a Binary 500. |
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Probably something to be said at this point about quality vs quantity... |
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// see the subtitle: "Curiosity Satisfier". "Usefulness" need not apply. This IS the HalfBakery, right? |
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I considered that and dismissed it because it requires someone to actually do something to create, and ideas in the halfbakery category ought to have usefulness. Outside of this category I take your point however. |
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It places focus on something unimportant and counter to the purpose of HB. What is the value of knowing this number? It matters in no possible way. |
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For those very few that care, it would contribute to a dick showing contest. The rest don't care. |
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[hippo], I basically agree with you about quality.
And while the voting system here allows a sort of
"quality estimate" to be applied to each Idea,
there is one way in which it might not be
perfectly reliable. I quote from some of the text
on my User Page: |
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"Hmmm...I just noticed that a bunch of other
people have a lot of ideas posted, of which a huge
proportion were voted with croissants rather than
fishbones. Then I saw someone's confession
regarding deletion of one's own unpopular ideas.
Cowards! Just remember that once upon a time,
harnessing fire was probably an unpopular idea." |
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//It matters in no possible way// and the day they invent a robot to write HB posts is the day idle curiousity won't strike the poster upon occasion. |
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anyways both baked and redundant. |
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[FlyingToaster], if by "baked" you are referring to the
bookmarklet, well, then, here is a question for
[tatterdemalion]: If the Idea-count data is useless,
then why was the bookmarklet created? |
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// why was the bookmarklet created? |
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That question is better directed to the person who created the bookmarklet. |
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oh, you want it on the account page ? sorry, meh. |
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//If the Idea-count data is useless, then why was the
bookmarklet created?// |
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Because it was a problem to solve, and I'd never really used
JavaScript before. Idle hands and all that. |
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[ytk], thanks for the response. I might mention that
I've been messing around with JavaScript for a few
years now, but never heard of "bookmarklets" before.
Nice job! |
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While I like the principle of this idea, there needs to
be a mechanism to not encourage the posting of
mediocre ideas. Displaying the total only if a word-
count minimum and idea-count requirement were
met might work. |
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I wish the ideas would all crash out of the system
everytime the halfbakery is crawled by Internet Archive,
leaving a series of postapocalyptic society rebuilds, based
on what ideas they recall from the archives. The user page
count maximum is limited to the number of ideas possible
since the last page crawl by Internet Archive. |
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//While I like the principle of this idea, there needs to
be a mechanism to not encourage the posting of
mediocre ideas.// |
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I thought about modifying the bookmarklet to also
display the average idea score. It's certainly possible,
and not especially complicated, but something
about the idea of “grading” users didn't quite sit right
with me. |
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Grading for what meta-jutta level compliance or meta
concept level compliance, or meta utilitarian
evaluation? |
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The halfbakery Idea is [jutta], that's who could tell you
what kind of things should be on the halfbakery. Then
there's the halfbakery idea is halfbakery, meaning an
idea
that should not take material form, or is not meant to
take material form besides a short writing that barely
attempts to realize the idea. Then there's the
utilitarian aggregate of ideas that make people happy for
various reasons, or fulfill some practical purpose that are
acceptable and are indicated by voting, and suggestion.
These three factors maybe more shape the ultimate idea
creation. Appealing to jutta's concept of a halfbakery
outlined in her meta section, the concept of halfbakery
as incomplete concepts, or halfbakery as user generated
from content and displays of contentment and
discontentment. Content production interpreted as an
act of personal contentment production. ie. I post an
idea about reification because reification crosses
hyperreality from indeterminancy to determinancy - the
halfbakery problem: making an idea real, or materializing
it completely baking it. The problem is that the
utilitarian value of the halfbakery leans towards
reification with the weight of science and not free with
the weightlessness indeterminancy as paranoid
speculations about what is possible. |
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heh, half-baked halfbakery... mind, we got the good half. |
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Not only that but... wait... do möbius strip ideas count as fully baked ? |
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