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counting big on your fingers
 
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Regular counting you get 10. 1 digit each finger on one hand and 6 digits on the other hand you get 36. Ten fingers in binary gets you 1024. If you count letters with number it hard to count on your fingers. But if you count with numbers and letters with a binary set up you can count large numbers. 0=0, 1=36, 01=72, 11=108, 001=216, 11111=1152 and add 36 to close the hand and carry the sum over to the other hand 1=1152, 101= 5760, 11111=35712, and plus 1152 from the other hand you get 36864. Why you would count this high I don't know, but you can. Like if you want to count all the pennies in a hundred dollar bill.

The conversion chart. L1=36, L2=72, L3=144, L4=288, L5=576. R1=1152, R2=2304, R3=4608, R4=9216, R5=18432 1 through Z is counted out loud.


mkauf84, Jul 22 2005

Quicker Counting Quicker_20Counting
From [AO]. Includes a neat description of counting on your fingers in base six (carry the 35) [reensure, Jul 22 2005]

Base 36 counting http://www.yak.net/...looey/RickDate.html
I was ignant about this. Ignant, I tells ya! [bungston, Jul 24 2005]

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       Use your tongue as a "negative" flag.

phundug, Jul 22 2005
  

       Cross your eyes for fractions.

daseva, Jul 22 2005
  

       There are two kinds of people: those who repeat themselves, those who repeat themselves, those who repeat themselves, those who repeat themselves, those who repeat themselves,...

phundug, Jul 22 2005
  

       I don't understand the invention, and neither the description nor the comments from other readers or the author have done anything to change that.   

       Is this "count in binary, but multiply everything by 36?"

jutta, Jul 22 2005
  

       I think it's base-36 counting, replicated. Both hands in: 0-35. Left hand in right hand out: 36-72. Left hand out right hand in: 73-108. Both hands out: 109-144. But where [mkauf84] finds so many more hands after that is a mystery to me. Maybe he recruits more people.

phundug, Jul 23 2005
  

       Maybe he's from a different planet, where hands are more common? It might explain the largely impenetrable grammar of the idea, too.   

       Oh, [reensure], there's only 10 kinds of people in the world, not 3.

UnaBubba, Jul 23 2005
  

       Is it just me, or this pure nonsense? Base 36 should run:
0=0
10=36
100=1296
Not what mkauf84 says. And anyway, how the devil are you supposed to remember the letters? Counting this way on your fingers is nonsensical. "Like if you want to count all the pennies in a hundred dollar bill."
[MFD removed] bad science

ldischler, Jul 23 2005
  

       all your base are belong to us.

phundug, Jul 23 2005
  

       There's 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that understand binary, and the other nine.

Ian Tindale, Jul 23 2005
  

       There are only two kinds of people in the world. Those who divide people into two categories, and those who don't.

Basepair, Jul 23 2005
  

       look its simiple each finger represents one binary number. instead of represent 2 it represent 36. 1 in binary would equal 1 than move over like 01 would equal 2 so 11 equal 1+2 which equals 3. So do that with a base 36, where 1 in binary equal 36 and 01 equals 72 so that would mean that 11 would equal 36+72 which equals 108. So its 36 to represent 1. My logic is undeniable.

mkauf84, Jul 23 2005
  

       I've read all of you comments and found them quite humorous. If you read the description carefully you would see how it works. And can some one give me the definition of multiply I looked it up and the definition looks more like the definintion for add.

mkauf84, Jul 23 2005
  

       Big + because I like [mkaufs] style, and like him, my logic is undeniable. If he does not know the word multiply I suspect he is working hard to convey this idea using an unfamiliar langauge, and I appreciate that.   

       I am still trying to figure out how to use this method to count the number of pennies in my handful of nickels. It seems like it jumps over large numbers of numbers.   

       [Mkauf], label your fingers - L1 is left thumb, L5 is left little finger, R1 right thumb, R5 right little finger. I want to know how to represent the numbers 5, 10, 1000 and 10,000 using your system. What would be the corresponding fingers (and letters??)   

         

       My definition of multiply: add a number to itself that many times - the number of times is the multipler. 5 multiplied by 4 = 5 + 5 + 5 + 5.

bungston, Jul 24 2005
  

       Sung Jin Pai is brilliant. (from [reensure]'s link to [bungston]'s link - Chisanbop.)
I usually use a combination of [Amos Kito]/[Worldgineer]/[jon3]'s methods discribed in above mentioned link.

Zimmy, Jul 24 2005
  

       Got it. This is a method for counting out loud - say you are watching and counting cars passing beneath a busy freeway overpass. You recite out loud 0 thru 9 and A thru Z before you put out a finger. Your finger is the placeholder for the 36 you have counted, and now you count out loud again from 0. By tracking your _spoken_ groups of 36 on your fingers in binary, you can accomodate an enormous number of 36s: The top # in binary finger counting is 1024; 1024*36 = 36824. Essentially Jutta has it: counting in binary, multiplied by 36. This is where that whole opaque preamble about counting in letters and numbers comes from: counting out loud.   

       His logic is truly undeniable.

bungston, Jul 24 2005
  

       Oh good, because his grammar is illogical.

UnaBubba, Jul 24 2005
  

       All right then, I see. It's not base 36 at all, and you keep only one non-binary item in your head (although, why you're using letters is mysterious, when you could more easily count to 36—or any other number, for that matter). Anyway, good work. This is bakery material, so I've removed the MFD and changed my vote to +.

ldischler, Jul 24 2005
  

       // My logic is undeniable. //   

       It may be, if we could understand it. The same can't be said for your communication skills.

waugsqueke, Jul 24 2005
  

       bungston: that looks like the definition of powers. you add number to it's self 6+6 that many times 1.6+2.6+3.6+4.6+5.6+6.6=36. And you used times a synonym of multiply. I need a defition of a word that doesn't use it's self to describe it's self.   

       5 is 5 out loud, 10 is A out loud. 1000 is S out loud. L1 up, L2 up, L3 down, L4 up, L5 up. 10000 is S out loud. L1 up, L2 down, L3 up, L4 down, L5 up, R1 down, R2 down, R3 down, R4 up, R5 down.   

       1-z is out loud, L1=36, L2=72, L3=144, L4,=288, L5=576, R1=1152, R2=2304, R3=4608, R4=9216, R5=18432. I based this off of quiker counting with the combined forces of the comments to create the most USELESS FORM OF COUNTING EVER!!!

mkauf84, Jul 24 2005
  

       That is correct bungston you deciphered the clues and solved the mystery of the missing ring. I could have gotten away with it, hadn't been for those meadling halfbakers.   

       but what I really want to now is a formula that adds powers in series like a^0+a^1+a^2+a^3+a^4...a^x without writting out all the numbers. Calculators don't have this function. And a formula for a! on paper without multipling all the numbers.

mkauf84, Jul 24 2005
  

       Sigma(a^n) where n=0 to x is a geometric series with initial term a and common ration a, I think.   

       The sum to x is: a^(x+1) - 1 / a - 1   

       when x != 1.   

       As for a! you can use a calculator.

pooduck, Jul 24 2005
  

       Also if you want to sum to infintity of   

       Sigma(a^n) where n=0 to infinity   

       then it is:   

       1 / 1 - a   

       when |a| < 1

pooduck, Jul 24 2005
  

       [UnaBubba] Well, I'll be superamalgamated! 10 is .... (looks at knuckles).

reensure, Jul 24 2005
  
      
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