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gas turbine hybrid

small powerplant for hybrid cars
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I know there have been gas turbine powered cars in the 50´s to 70´s, but they all suffered from the extreme lag of the gas turbine. Why not use the turbine to turn an electric generator (baked in aircraft APU´s and probably many other power generators), then use the power to either charge a battery or directly drive the motor. Advantages of this setup would be:

-fast, instantly available acceleration from battery power
-a smaller battery, because it would need only enough capacity for a few seconds of peak power, until the turbine has reached is operating speed.

RaoulDuke, Oct 09 2003

Turbine Electric http://www.grc.nasa...1996/6000/6920v.htm
This is what they have done so far [SystemAdmin, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Another discussion http://www.shouldex...003/2/28/1702/30357
[half, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Volvo http://www.ntnu.no/...ni/1993-dec/8b.html
high-speed generator [TIB, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Volvo http://www.truck.volvo.se/env/ect.asp
[TIB, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

Rosen Motors gas-turbine / flywheel hybrid mercedes http://www.inc.com/...e/19980601/939.html
not the link I was hoping to find, but a start for anyone wishing to google it out further [X2Entendre, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004]

My Turbine Hybrid Build http://www.facebook...=4fb9f&id=658132013
Photos from the build. [rihilleman, Nov 30 2007]


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       like instead of a diesel electric a turbine electric
SystemAdmin, Oct 09 2003
  

       Exactly, only the turbine should be much lighter and smoother running than a diesel engine. I searched the net a lot for this, but it seems nobody implemented it so far, although all the parts are available off the shelf (aircraft APUs, electric/hybrid cars...)
RaoulDuke, Oct 09 2003
  

       Large turbines are very efficient for flight and for generating electricity compared to their piston counterparts, but small turbines have never been very efficient when compared to similar output diesel or gas piston or rotary engines.   

       A turbocharged rotary engine hybrid vehicle of equal power output would be more efficient and produce fewer emissions than what you are proposing.
thejini, Oct 09 2003
  

       See link.   

       I read the story when it first came out years ago, and have been wondering what happened since.   

       With today's technology, you'd think something like this wouldn't be too difficult to manufacture for a reasonable price.   

       It could run on a wide variety of fuels as well (including biodiesel).
TIB, Oct 09 2003
  

       I read about a private company that was playing with this a few years back... their idea differed from yours in that they were attempting to channel energy that is normally dissipated during braking, etc. to rev up a flywheel that was contained in a vacuum. Power for rapid acceleration was to be drawn from the flywheel.   

       I guess they ran into concerns with crash testing, etc. and abandoned the project.   

       It was a very interesting article though... I'll try to find a link.
X2Entendre, Oct 09 2003
  


 

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