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Think of the coffee machine process .
The idea is for a crossflow of a pressurized gas pipeline with sunlight and ground mixed plastics .
Design a gas pipeline interface that comes out of the ground into a clear glass reaction vessel which can be loaded /unloaded with mixed plastics .
The sunlight
heats the chamber as the gas perculates through plastic on the way to consumers .
Over time the plastic would be reduced to a sludge that could be filtered for constituents .
The process would be like speeding up the natural sunlight degradation .
Plausible ?
Anything Into Oil
http://www.mindfull...-Into-Oil1may03.htm
"Unlike other solid-to-liquid-fuel processes such as cornstarch into ethanol, this one will accept almost any carbon-based feedstock. If a 175-pound man fell into one end , he would come out the other end as 38 pounds of oil, 7 pounds of gas, and 7 pounds of minerals, as well as 123 pounds of sterilized water." [phoenix, Jan 07 2008]
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There is a pilot plant in India already doing this, using coal and an undisclosed catalyst chemical to convert plastic to crude oil.
There is also an experimental industrial microwave device made by GRC (GlobalResource Corporation) called the Hawk-10, that turns used tyres into crude oil, metal componentry and carbon black. It is being trialled to take care of the waste produced when a car is shredded, converting enough of the waste into oil to run itself and have some left over. |
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Is that the sort of technology you might have been thinking about when you accidentally posted this without any explanation, [wjt]? |
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I was trying not to add any more energy if possible |
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Although free electrons make for serious goo . |
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The Hawk-10 is energy positive. I'm not sure about the Indian device. |
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Both infer an industrial staging . |
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Yes, they do infer some sort of industrial staging, for good reason. |
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Rendering the tyres /plastics / feedstock to powder is a major step, necessary to maximise the available surface area of particles to ensure your catalysis / reduction processes work quickly and efficiently. |
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Bubbles of fast flowing gas are good for giving a high surface area contact . As are photons .
Maybe the glass vessels could be municiple unwanted plastic recycling bins , dotted all about the city . |
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If every individual does the sorting/filtering the really crappy jobs should be few and far between . |
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Still , A public reaction vessel plausible yet ? |
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Can you please disambiguate your language? It's very difficult to work out what you mean, by statements like: |
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//Still , A public reaction vessel plausible yet ?// |
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I'm not sure whether you mean it's a still, for public usage and reaction... It's not moving... or, "However, leaving the other considerations aside for now, is there sufficient interest from this community to believe this idea might be made plausible with a little more work." |
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what does your plastics degrade into ? |
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I do not understand the reaction between gas and plastic. Is this natural gas - methane? If the gas is on the way to the consumers I assume this to be the case. I would not think methane would react with plastics, but I am here to be edified. |
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Was going to link to what [pertinax] linked to, unfortunately the claims of "overunity" depressed my urges.
[wjt]'s implementation does not refer to extraction of energy, only the use of contained elements. Still, Polyethelene sludge does not amount to much. Except for the fact you may be able to store it without wasted volume. This could be the next big thing in carbon sequestration? Our grandkid's grandkid's oil? I have a sneaky suspicion that your plastic may rob a couple of your gas molecules in the digestion process. And you may have to die your feed black, or green. |
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