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war memorials are cheaper than the real experience. and
considering that august 6 1945 is getting so historically
remote than the new generations of kids cant really relate
to it, there is a dire need for a high impact war memorial
to get people to empthasize , to understand, and above all
to
be scared shitless of the past.
i propose a publicly located room somewhere very public
and busy where one can step in and instead of just
watching a movie documentary about the atomic blast and
inciration of people, one can don a virtual headset with 3d
experience of being a jon hesey type character surverying
what happened that very day.
instead of having a moral message about the bomb, the
memorial would just make you understand how much it
sucks and how much pain it causes. this would be the hell
out of any war memorial ever.
Zeev
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Gears of War 2 is already there, basically [sninctown, Feb 08 2009]
Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park.
http://www.pcf.city.../tour_e/guide1.html
Having been there, I can tell you that it's a more effective reminder of the effects of war than any computer simulation can ever be. [DrBob, Feb 09 2009]
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Shirley Iran will render this moot soon enough. |
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might be worth it except for the desensitization brought on by videogames that use the same rendering technology. |
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// desensitization brought on by videogames\\ No real problem. As I understand the idea this would depict the horrors of war in explicit detail. No video game or movie even comes close. |
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so sick fuckers can get off ? |
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+. I was expecting to come here and have to bone this, but reading through, I think you could have a point. I've always found one of the most moving tv moments (bizzarely) to be the end of Blackadder goes forth, when all the characters you now know and love go out onto the battlefield and die. I think that this <i>could</i> be like that. It would probably have a 80% chance of being very tacky and in bad taste, but its worth a bun for the 20% chance that it could be a really moving memorial. |
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// No video game or movie even comes close.// That's a pretty bold assertion, given what some modern video games are dishing up (link). I'm sure if there is ever a Gears of War 3, it will cross the line of making videogame horrors worse than the real thing. |
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//so sick fuckers can get off ?\\ That is the downside of the idea. |
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[sninctown] I don't like to go into detail but unfortunately shooting and bombing and people getting injured is not the worst of war. I know you can get these things in incredible detail in games and movies, so that was not what I was talking about. |
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Then again I was wrong because the idea specifies atomic bomb explosion. So I changed my vote. I thought it would depict all sorts of horrible war stuff which could be usefull as a deterrant. |
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I saw a fascinating program where a rather gung-ho and macho "isn't the army cool" sort of presenter was looking into programs designed to desensitise soldiers to violence. His attitude changed fairly quickly after an hour of watching real footage of close combat and people losing bits of themselves to landmines. |
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This isn't a bad idea in itself, but you can get a very similar experience in the Imperial War Museum. I'm not sure making it 3D and "virtual" will give it a lot more impact. |
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Years ago I went to the Oklahoma City bombing memorial which included a sort of semi-virtual experience - there's a room, decorated like an office with the sound of people chatting by the water cooler, telephones ringing - just normal office stuff. Then, all of a sudden, there's a boom - the lights flicker and the office sounds are replaced with people screaming and general panic - nerve-jangling stuff. I'd normally think something like that would be crass, sensationalist and in horrendously bad taste - but at the time it felt perfectly appropriate, and in the context of the rest of the museum/memorial, it was very moving indeed. |
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Having said all that, I don't think it would ever have worked in the UK - sometimes it's better to leave things to quiet contemplation - perhaps (like the OK City arrangement) you could (optionally) walk through something like that on your way to a solemn, quiet, thought provoking space where you can at least try to work it out in your own mind. |
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Something like the Backdraft ride at Universal Studios, but with more bass and brighter lights?
Oh yes, as you leave, the smell of fresh roast pork. [-] |
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In the Stockholm war museum, Sweden, there is a room with 50s interior, sound installation and some projected visuals that places you in the killzone of a nuclear explosion. |
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They also have a scenario with the retreating swedish army in russia, dying from hypothermia, wounds and sickness; and other assorted appetizers re:war. |
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There should be a lot more museums like this. |
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