If the Halfbakery can have a Flag, a National Anthem and a Homeland, then surely it can have a Coat of Arms awarded by the College of Heralds.
I'm not sure what form the Arms would take. There would have to be a Bend Sinister in there somewhere, and half a croissant, and a fishbone, on a ground Argent, but I'm not that well up on heraldic terms.
It would need a suitable motto, preferably in Latin. Any offers ?-- 8th of 7, Sep 13 2002 The College of Arms http://www.college-of-arms.gov.uk/A useful starting point. [8th of 7, Sep 13 2002, last modified Oct 21 2004] Latin proverbs http://www.wikipedi...wiki/Latin_proverbsSome possibilities. [8th of 7, Sep 13 2002, last modified Oct 21 2004] "Carpe Demi" http://web.archive....alfbakery_20taglineBorn on August 9, 2000. Hippo is the proud father. [waugsqueke, Sep 13 2002] How to Make a Medieval Coat of Arms http://www.yourchil...rns.com/her_act.htmWhat could it be but two and a half croissants rampant over a fishbone couchant on a field of custard? [DrCurry, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 21 2004] an explosive device in several quarters.-- po, Sep 13 2002 sorry that was a suggestion *for* your idea, not what you could do *with* your idea :)-- po, Sep 13 2002 A suggestion for a Latin motto - "nil commodi", which might mean "never complete".-- Aristotle, Sep 13 2002 you sure it does not mean, "no potty"?-- po, Sep 13 2002 Or "deus ex machina", "an artificially introduced solution".-- FarmerJohn, Sep 13 2002 Ars longa, pitta brevis?-- TwoSheds, Sep 13 2002 this sounds like a job for Bristolz....-- Marassa, Sep 13 2002 Periculum. Artoptae coctum. Which, according to my brief and inadequate research and making allowances for my crap grammar, can be variously read as... "Beware! Bakers cooking." or "Beware! Bakers plotting." or even "Beware! Bakers mulling."-- DrBob, Sep 13 2002 "Carpe demi"-- hippo, Sep 13 2002 Can't we each have a coat? I'll take some crossed death rays... possibly being used to cook a croissant
If not then I second "Carpe demi"...-- RobertKidney, Sep 13 2002 Changed my mind to: Mutatis mutandis. (With the necessary modifications.)-- RobertKidney, Sep 13 2002 Non ut coctum vivo, sed ut vivam coquo. "I don't live to bake, I bake to live."
semifactus, semiinfectus incomplete, half-unfinished nil commodi is better, though. I second ars longa, pita brevis... 'the art is long, the bread is short.'-- RayfordSteele, Sep 13 2002 Garnut alboir sicomg.-- waugsqueke, Sep 13 2002 Um, coats of arms belong to individuals, not countries. The proposal should shirley be to give individual bakers coats of arms granted by the Half-Bakery College of Arms.
Nominations now open for mottos for bakers:-- PeterSilly, Sep 13 2002 Whatever the Latin is for: Don't sweat the details.-- bristolz, Sep 13 2002 "Klatu barada nikto"-- Guy Fox, Sep 13 2002 si hoc legere scis nimium eruditiones habes-- po, Sep 13 2002 "demi carp"Subtle variation, relating to my overly-fmailiar fishbone-- NickTheGreat, Sep 13 2002 protestant church motto:
E unum pluribus.-- RayfordSteele, Sep 13 2002 If it has to be Latin and we can't have "Carpe Demi" then I want "Vidi, Vici, Veni". Yes, in that order. Alternately, "Garnut Alboir Sicomg", as no-one is ever gonna figure that out.
As for the symbol... A yellow chicken, rampant, on a green field, standing in a pool of custard. fishbone held aloft in its beak. Motto writ large on a croissant.-- UnaBubba, Sep 13 2002 Festina lente ! - Hasten Slowly-- barnzenen, Sep 13 2002 Well, shoot. I'd never have known I would need a year or more of latin just to annotate on the halfbakery.
(fumbles through course description guide and credit charts)
I can't take latin until next year, but even then I would have to take it in summer school, that is, if I wish to take Culinary Arts my senior year.
What does "carpe demi" mean? I know it's one of the taglines.-- BinaryCookies, Sep 13 2002 BC, Carpe Diem means "Seize The Day" Carpe Demi means "Seize Half"
Now do you get it? It's a pun, and a very funny one at that.-- UnaBubba, Sep 13 2002 Latin puns now. Oh dear, we have sunk to new depths.-- 8th of 7, Sep 13 2002 [8th], I share your sentiments.
Carpe demi sounds like the ideal choice for a HalfBakery motto.-- BinaryCookies, Sep 13 2002 8/7, that's not fair. I attended the very best schools, including a magnificent finishing school: L'Ecole de Coup de Crace.-- UnaBubba, Sep 13 2002 Sunk to new depths? "Carpe demi" has a long history here. Observe linky.-- waugsqueke, Sep 13 2002 Carpe demi is the perfect choice, though.
( Wow. I never knew that the i v n i n / n e t o thing was such a pain. Heh. )-- bristolz, Sep 13 2002 I never got it until someone told me outright (it might have been you, bris).-- waugsqueke, Sep 13 2002 In retrospect, we have a B/2 coat of arms. Half a croissant for half of a dollar, on a plate. Motto changes.
Baked.-- UnaBubba, Sep 13 2002 qualis artifex pereo - what an artist perishes with me-- PeterSilly, Sep 14 2002 HB archive material begins to be used...do people who have deleted their accounts since that snapshot have a problem with it?-- BinaryCookies, Sep 14 2002 I don't get the i v n i n / n e t o thing. If anyone desparately wants to tell me the answer please e-mail me ( see profile for address ).-- kaz, Sep 15 2002 BC, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with it myself (even though I posted it). And UB, I'd counter that the plated croissant is not so much a coat-of-arms as it is a logo or service mark.-- waugsqueke, Sep 15 2002 There's a difference?-- UnaBubba, Sep 15 2002 I second the double-DemiBubba, here. This feels like wheel reinvention. The top-left croissant is already burnt into my memory for ever, to say nothing of my screen.-- General Washington, Sep 15 2002 I agree with Waugs; the Croissant is a logo or trademark. Lots of companies and orgaisations have those as well as their coat of arms. "Carpe demi" definitely sounds good for the motto; PeterSilly's idea for individual HalfBaker's coats of arms is excellent.
I'm reading up on Heraldry so I can propose a clearer technically-correct description of the suggestions already recieved.-- 8th of 7, Sep 16 2002 UB, of course there is.-- waugsqueke, Sep 16 2002 Ah so, the lines are drawn in the sand. The Belt and Braces Boys vs the UnaBadgers. (did that come out quite right...?)-- General Washington, Sep 16 2002 If I were to go into battle at Agincourt I'd be proud to carry a shield emblazoned with a half-croissant on a plate, above the motto "Muffin Ventured, Muffin Gained", possibly in Latin.
I imagine I'd probably be burned at the stake a little later in the day, just for being so obviously out of place or some other, equally legitimate reason, but I'd still love to do it at least once.-- UnaBubba, Sep 16 2002 [po] and [bristolz] cheers for the help with the i v n i n / n e t o thing, seeing as it was a play on words I'd never have gotten it coz I suck at that sort of thing.-- kaz, Sep 16 2002 So, [8th], are you quite studied up on this by now? I've been waiting for that technical clarity you promised . . . .-- bristolz, Mar 31 2003 [bris] - you must have diarised that one!-- PeterSilly, Mar 31 2003 'Postatem obscuri lateris nescitis'
You do not know the power of the dark side.-- sambwiches, Mar 31 2003 [sam] you can get cream for that you know.-- po, Mar 31 2003 It should be a real coat. Keeps you warm in the winter, you know.-- hippo, Mar 31 2003 with 8 arms?-- po, Mar 31 2003 idea for symbol: it would have to include an elf...not to mention dough that has something wrong with it.-- igirl, Mar 31 2003 Searching the HB for reference to i v n i n seeks n e t o to finally figure it out, I came across this page, where it fails to explain anything (I already knew the "carpe demi" thing). Can someone explain it?-- Worldgineer, Feb 20 2004 I can't figure it out either. The best I can figure is:
Invention Very Nice In Name seeks Necessarily Expected To Operate.-- Zimmy, Aug 21 2006 Oh c'mon now. Invin + neto = invention.
I think.-- 2 fries shy of a happy meal, Aug 21 2006 oh. <slaps forehead>. of course. I was never good at doing that with words (I even forget what it's called).-- Zimmy, Aug 21 2006 halfbakery