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Daughter sent me a cam equipped bird feeder for father's day, she knows I like watching the birds outside my office window and this one will identify what kind of a bird it is.
I was thinking a translation program would be fairly easy, They already have programs that identify the bird from its call.
I've seen cartoons proposing this albeit in a humorous way, birds yelling "Hey! Who wants to mate!" or "Get out of here! This is my food!".
This sounds like a joke but it's not, (the fact that it's not particularly funny is a dead giveaway) birds are making those noises for a reason and I think it might be pretty straightforward for us with our big brains to figure out what they're saying with their little brains.
Assign AI bird voices obviously. Although you could pick whatever you want I suppose. A bluebird with a Barry White voice, maybe a southern starling (if there is such a bird) having a southern twang. Canadian sparrow says "Get offa my feeder eh?"
Okay, so the thing determines what kind of bird it is and assigns the voice and accent appropriately. Not sure if you can determine male of female but that would be obviously important if you could do it.
Your idea is audio and visual
Kestrel_20Snax
This older idea is gustatory and visual [normzone, Jul 01 2026]
Project CETI
https://www.projectceti.org/
[bs0u0155, Jul 14 2026]
The idea has been considered before.
https://www.pintere...-33214115995993836/
I think that's a pretty good guess what the outcome would be. [doctorremulac3, Jul 14 2026]
What are birds saying?
https://www.google....IAQ&sclient=gws-wiz
[doctorremulac3, Jul 14 2026]
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Sigh ... AI has now replaced "magic". |
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"Any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic". And the LLMs being touted as "Artificial Intelligence" aren't even that much of an advancement. |
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Oh well, I guess we're all just along for the ride now. |
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By the way, the smart bird feeder with bird ID is amazing. I very much recommend getting one. |
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You don't need much AI. Bird calls are known, and to the extent they use different calls for different purposes that's also known. But you'll get tired of hearing "this is my space" every 30 seconds. |
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Or "Hey! I'm ready to mate! Hey! I'm ready to mate!" |
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Need a mic inside your window and the reverse translator app feeding a speaker outside so you can answer back |
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Believe it or not that birdcam thing my daughter got me has not only a mic to hear the birds and character recognition but a mic so I can talk to them I guess, not sure what the point is. Don't know what you'd say. "Hi birds" I guess. |
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Which frankly sounds kind of sad. |
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Oh wait, maybe you're supposed to play bird calls to get them to come over. Okay, that's kind of cool if that's the idea. |
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If not though, sad.Or at least weird. |
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At least some bird species probably have more to say. I seem to remember studies confirming that crows and magpies can recognise individual humans. |
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This idea then carries the risk that we find out what they think of us. |
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It'll be like the whole social media shock all over again, except between species. There will be cancellations. [po] will be OK, because the pigeons will put in a good word for her. |
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I always wondered why we were so arrogant to think we could understand aliens if SETI ever picked up anything. We don't know if anything's there, we don't know if they're communicating and if they were what would it be like? It's not like I'm spending a lot of my time yelling prime numbers to friends. Yet they got a good amount of funding. |
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Here on Earth we know lots of things are communicating, and we can clearly pick that communication up. Whales for example are massive big-brained mammals that we can easily receive the communications of. We could also talk back with minimal effort. We just have to work out their language which being mammalian, is likely a lot less weird than aliens or Welsh. For this reason I'm glad someone got around to making CETI, <link>. Points for the name, and I'm saying the first thing they ever say directly to us will be "can you please be bloody careful with that SONAR stuff, Christ, the din!". |
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Birds however, might be a bit weirder. The robins out the back of my house just whistle the same bloody 6 note sequence all year independent of mating/rearing young etc. Don't get me started on wood pigeons in England. Stop. You sound depressed and honestly, what's the point? "hoo-hoooo-hoo" Over and over again. But I would like to know what the hell swifts are saying as they yammer away with high-frequency, high intensity twittering as they fly around snacking on insects. Surely you'd come up with a shorter way of saying "there's some lovely insects over here" which is all I can think they'd need to say in the circumstances. |
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"It's a tonal language" ... |
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Depending on the pitch, rhythm, and context, birds are typically saying: |
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"Danger!": Sharp, high-pitched shrieks or repetitive calls (like a robin's "tut, tut") warn of nearby predators, alerting other birds and even local wildlife. |
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"Keep out!": Melodious, complex songs broadcasted during spring mean "this is my territory, back off". |
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"Date me!": Often heard during the dawn chorus, elaborate songs are sung by males to attract a mate and show off their health. |
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"Where are you?": Short, quick "contact calls" help birds in a flock (or mates) keep track of each other. |
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"Feed me!": Fledglings use high-pitched, insistent "begging calls" to demand food from their parents |
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