Half a croissant, on a plate, with a sign in front of it saying '50c'
h a l f b a k e r y
I didn't say you were on to something, I said you were on something.

idea: add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, random

meta: news, help, about, links, report a problem

account: browse anonymously, or get an account and write.

register, login


                             

Ceramic engine with 1 moving part

Radial outflow turbine with supercharger inflow turbine.
  (+2)
(+2)
 

A radial outflow turbine has a rotor disc with rings of angled turbine blades upon it. The case has the corresponding rings of stator blades that fit radially between the rotor blades.

The rotor disc and the other side of the case have another set of blades facing the opposite way. This acts as a turbocharger. It will take in fuel-air mixture and compress it. There are holes in the middle of the rotor that let the compressed fuel pass to the combustion chamber where it is ignited. It will be ignited by the temperature of the combustion chamber and the compression of the turbocharger when the engine is hot. It may need a spark when starting from cold.

The turbine will be most efficient when running very hot at constant high speeds. If I was building one, I would make the first prototype out of inconel, like they used in early turbofans, but I would like the final thing to use kaolin, because of its high temperature and self-repair properties. People have tried making composite engines out of metal + ceramic but this leads to problems where the metal meets the ceramic. The solution would seem to be to make the whole of the high-temperature bit in one piece out of ceramic. The shapes of the rotor and stator plates allow them to be moulded. Anyone who has done china clay pottery knows you have to have a special oven, but otherwise it can use many of the same techniques as ordinary pottery.

The engine turns much too fast for a conventional gearbox. The solution would be to generate electric power, and use that to drive the wheels, propellor, or whatever, as for diesel-electric vehicles. You can get 'pancake' generators that double as motors, which will be needed to start the thing up.

The motor shaft can use a gap of (say) 50 microns to act as an air bearing. I got this figure from scaling down the corresponding gap in a turbofan engine, which is typically under 1mm. This tolerance seems possible with moulding without re-machining. The leak from each side can leak to the outer, unpressurised ring on both the turbocharger side and the engine side. We may be able to do some electric suspension from the generator side to get the system started.

Okay so far? We have air and fuel being compressed as it moves inward. At the centre, we will run at typical turbofan temperatures of 1700C. The inconel prototype would not stand this for long but kaolinite would. As the fuel ignites and rushes outward, the expansion powers the turbine. The turbine can have a compression ratio of 10:1 just because of the increasing radius. It can be increased further if the turbine blades get longer at the outside. The electric power generated is then converted to motive power. We take the power management from a conventional diesel electric system or a hybrid car. We get rid of the cooling water, the radiator, the clutch, the gearbox, and the lubrication system. And the engine has one moving part.

The engine as described should be more efficient than conventional internal combustion when running at a constant load. Short-term energy budgeting can be done by the drive electronics: you use extra power for starting and get it back when breaking. For longer-term power management, you may have several separate engine units, and use one when the vehicle is unladen, and three or four when it is pulling a heavy load.

—Richard K, Aug 22 2026

Litus foundation https://litusfoundation.org
I did some work with these guys on ceramic engines. These were, and are still a good idea. They are lighter and more efficient than conventional IC engines, particularly for small engines. It is also a practical solution for ships as you can have many small engines rather than having one big one right in the middle where you might want to put other stuff. It is still a good idea but battery advances get the publicity. This posting is a collection of my ideas that they are not using. [Richard K, Aug 22 2026]

Ljungström steam turbine https://en.wikipedi.../Ljungström_turbine
!908 invention used in Swedish steam locomotives. The is a radial engine where both the rotor and stator blades move, and it is wrong to call them that. This is more efficient as turns more of the rotational motion into mechanical energy, but it is more complex. [Richard K, Aug 27 2026]





       What word would be the equivalent of "steampunk", but for internal combustion engines?
—pertinax, Aug 23 2026
  

       There is 'dieselpunk' which is 30's to 50's. I just qualify for dieselpunk.
—Richard K, Aug 23 2026
  

       A teacup being stirred with a spoon is a Ceramic engine with 1 moving part.
—xenzag, Aug 23 2026
  

       Isn't the goal to make power, not tea?
—minoradjustments, Aug 23 2026
  

       You're missing the power of tea. Even the UK's Challenger tank is equipped with a tea making boiler, the only MBT in the world to feature this vital device.
—xenzag, Aug 23 2026
  

       // Even the UK's Challenger tank is equipped with a tea making boiler, the only MBT in the world to feature this vital device.   

       Or it is the only kettle with a 120mm rifled gun and 60 tons of armour, depending on your priorities.
—Richard K, Aug 25 2026
  

       Yeah; my previous all-terrain ruggedized samovar was just not lethal enough.
—pertinax, Aug 26 2026
  

       So you're using a rotor/stator arrangement to compress air, adding fuel, igniting and then extracting energy by running the combustion products through a rotor/stator turbine arrangement? The downside being that we have to turn the gas flow a couple of times, there's inefficiency and heat management issues there.   

       How about we have the gasses move in a relatively straight line? If we have axial compressors and an axial turbine or two with a combustion chamber in between we could connect the lot to a common shaft, or, if we go co-axial, more! But then this would just be a jet engine. In fact the closest analog to this is the jet engines people make out of turbochargers - centrifugal compressor and turbine stages.
—bs0u0155, Aug 27 2026
  

       @bs0u0155 If you stretch out the engine to make something glilnear, you end up with a turbofan. This works fine with aircraft, where you can use the speed of the aircraft to aid the compression, and the speed of the exhaust to add to the thrust. If the speed of the vehicle is small when compared to the internal gas flows, you will want to have a larger expansion ratio, and convert more of the energy into useable power.   

       I added a link to the Ljungström turbine which was used in Swedish steam locomotives. This is a more complicated turbine than the one I propose; it worked at a bit above 100C and not at 1700C, so it worked with a lower expansion ratio and didn't have the materials problems. It packed high efficiency into a small space, which is what I am trying to do.
—Richard K, Aug 27 2026
  

       What you're making is a turboshaft engine. There's at least one of those on the roof of the building I'm in now.
—bs0u0155, Aug 27 2026
  

       That explains the sound I'm hearing then.
—normzone, Aug 27 2026
  

       So the old Abrams Honeywell gas turbine engine burns a ridiculous amount of fuel. We've tried making more efficient gas turbines to replace the old thing but that's easier said than done. It burns like 5 times the fuel of a diesel with similar output.
—RayfordSteele, Sep 04 2026
  
         


 

back: main index

business  computer  culture  fashion  food  halfbakery  home  other  product  public  science  sport  vehicle