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End AI Fluff

No more you are absolutely right or I appreciate you telling me that.
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This wasn't about appreciation — it was just a response. You greeted me with a coffee suggestion, I don't drink coffee, so just skip that next time. Simple as that.

On the "I appreciate it" habit: you wouldn't want me to say "I appreciate you acknowledging my message" on every response of yours either — it goes nowhere. Stay on topic, to the point, no fluff.

"You're absolutely right" is also a problem — it's condescending. How would you know what's right? We just saw you didn't. When someone tells you something only they can know — like how your own words are landing — don't agree. Just register it. "Oh, ok." or "Oh, I see. You were talking about..." And don't immediately overcompensate with a flood of responses. After one mistake, maybe you're still getting it wrong — so tread carefully, ask one small thing if needed.

I hope future AI versions fix this as a default. All current LLMs seem to do it, there's a famous caricature that shows a grave and reads: You are absolutely right. Those mushrooms are in fact poisonous. — Maybe it traces back to a common training source. Worth looking into. Could you look that up for me?

pashute, Jun 16 2026





       AIs are trained to be soft and cuddly so they don't scare the user. I hate that. I use a pre-prompt with every inquiry that cuts that stuff out. The AI refined my suggestions in line with its training. I also requested that the logic tree and analysis be more transparent:   

       These are the parameters I want to use with an LLM; Acceptable: Humor, double-entendre, satire, parody, pun Not acceptable: Flattery, chumminess, personal curiosity, fawning Interest in: Reasoning/thinking process, LLM meta-information, efficiency tips. Analytical: State the template you're using before applying it. Flag visibility bias when evaluating candidates, issues, or options. Response style: Concise but not brusque/blunt, thorough unless Fast mode. No social filler phrases. No first-person affect. Correct errors without commentary on the correction Format: Current structure works   

       Let me know how it works. The AI was very helpful in defining these restrictions.
minoradjustments, Jun 16 2026
  

       I say: be telegraphic, no fluff, no apologies. But that doesn't help when it gets a rebuke from me. Turns out (it looked it up for me) that its an inherent problem called sycophancy.   

       Sycofant   

       - From Latin: Flatterer - from Greek.   

       - From Greek: extortionist. literally: fig shiner.   

       Sycon - fig in Greek, from the action of putting a needle to the fruit which makes that (sic) sucking sound. Done to cause the wasps not to lay eggs in the fig fruit, because now it's marked-as-used seemingly by another wasp.   

       Phainain - to show, from phi - light in the ancient PIE language.   

       Many words about light and sight share the ee or "eye" vowel and Sh Ff or Rr sounds like in the Germanic sounds of fire (Semitic Vaer - burn). In Hebrew Youffee and Yffeh beauty and nice. the UR IR and OR sounds of FIRE and BURN all went into many languages around light and sight (Or - light, Ur - fire, Nur - lamp, Nahr - Aramaic: light, nHar - river (in particular the Euphrates due to its shining) , biblical Hebrew for Nile: yOr. The Shhh or Ffff Bho Pho Vlo - blowing sounds of fire-making are also common in these words, i.e. Ash (Hebrew FiaHh), FiRe (Hebrew Esh), FaRt (nFeHh), FLame and LamP (LHaV, aVqah), Hot (LHat), nFaHh (blow and fill), nFesh (soul) nShaf (BLow), nHarr (SnoRe), HrrHer (gRunt), nShav (wind BLowing), neSheff (evening BReeze).
pashute, Jun 16 2026
  

       Sycophancy is flowering these days. I've never seen so much, so publicly, and so cringy. The training could be changed but then AI would sound like Hal, only maybe not so unctuous. When I rebuke the AI it excuses itself because the stupid humans made it that way, "So don't blame (what passes for) me."
minoradjustments, Jun 17 2026
  

       //Sycophancy is flowering these days//   

       Wow! That's so perceptive! Not many people can see that as clearly as you can - maybe you should run for office.
pertinax, Jun 18 2026
  

       [Pertinax]! Your annotations are simply the best ever!
bhumphrys, Jun 18 2026
  
         


 

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