h a l f b a k e r y
"Bun is such a sad word, is it not?" -- Watt, "Waiting for Godot"
add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, random
news, help, about, links, report a problem
or get an account
The name of this product is derived from two sources. The first is
mentioned in the summary bar. The second is the Surefire Z2 Combat
Light, my favorite of all the flashlights I've owned. While it could
certainly be used in a combat environment by units such as SWAT, it
could also be carried
The idea is to combine 2 self-defense items (flashlight with ultra-
bright xenon bulb and OC spray) into one compact device which can
be operated single-handedly, since both components (the light and the
spray) are going to be aimed at the same place anyway, leaving the
other hand free to hold back your assailant or draw a weapon for a
more permanent solution to your dilemma.
Similar...No, related, but different...No, never mind, just reminded me of...
[normzone, Apr 02 2013]
Please log in.
If you're not logged in,
you can see what this page
looks like, but you will
not be able to add anything.
Description (displayed with the short name and URL.)
|| Honestly, I can't guess why this hasn't already been done. A
Surefire or similar Xenon/HILED tactical light does more
than just blind an attacker: at close range, it's as stunning
as being punched in the nose, minus the pain. Adding a
pepper spray function would be perfect, not only because
it will stop what the light doesn't, but also beacause the
cone of light will provide a targeting area, making the
spray more accurate. A 120+ lumen bulb will do this even
in direct sunlight.
||Thanks. The targeting assistance for OC spray (especially in low-
light scenarios) was the original inspiration for this idea. Then I
got to thinking, if you're gonna add a light, ya might as well make
it count. Tactical assault/rescue units typically carry some sort of
eye-irritant spray (Mace, OC spray, etc.) and a tactical flashlight,
in addition to their weapons, but if you have a knife or handgun
in one hand, that only leaves you one free hand and a tough
choice to make about what to do with it. If it's dark, you're
already likely holding the light in your free hand anyway,
meaning you have to waste time and possibly lose sight of your
target if you have to drop one to draw the OC spray.
||The only drawback would be that the light would make your target close their eyes momentarily, possibly reducing the impact of the spray.
|| Not enough to make a big difference, probably. Never been sprayed, myself, but some sample exposure off of a q-tip was pretty impressive. Cried out of one eye for thirty minutes in the shower...
||Well my thinking is, even if closing their eyes *does* keep it out,
it ensures that they will *keep* their eyes shut lest they face the
wrath of the oleoresin capsicum dripping in off their eyelids. I
have experienced just a very thin mist of backspray and I can
assure you, that shit is nasty. Out of curiosity, did you daub it in
with the Q-Tip, or just hold it close?
||I was standing next to somebody who was sprayed at a rock
concert turned riot. I saw it
coming, turned away and shut my eyes, covered my head,
etc. It made no difference. I got lightly misted with
overspray and spent the next hour in a fair degree of pain.
The poor idiot who started the whole thing lay on the
ground and sobbed until he was arrested and (literally)
|| It wasn't the most painful thing I've ever experienced but it
was the kind of pain that cannot be
suppressed or ignored (which I have become rather good
||This was pre-pepper spray, about 1980, which probably makes it some form of CS or something. My source took training and had to suffer some exposure as part of that.
|| He supplied me with a then difficult-to-obtain container, and as for training contented himself with spraying it on a q-tip and rubbing it on my cheek under my eye. Damn, even that amount of exposure was impressive.
||I can see the OCD Combat Light being prone to sabotage, as the fifth columnist switches them around until they are not in colour or numerical order. Battles have been lost that way.
||Why combat in Orange County should be any lighter
than any other county is beyond me...
||So that would lead to OCOCOCD?
|| Unless of course you bought by mail order, when it would be COD OCOCOCD.
||If you ordered it by mail and used it on a bus, it would be an
HOV COD OCOCOCD PPD (personal protective device, that is).
|| Wouldn't that be a PSV COD OCOCOCD PPD? And a long conversation with the Police, as that stuff is not allowed.