Half a croissant, on a plate, with a sign in front of it saying '50c'
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Rename burgers to something French

A gesture of solidarity
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Those who renamed French Fries to Freedom Fries may now want to take this measure, to communicate sympathy, unity, and an assurance of whatever assistance may be required.
Voice, Nov 14 2015

Hypertechnology — a definition https://youtu.be/4CELwcGCqJ4
…referred to in something I said down there. [Ian Tindale, Nov 15 2015]

The Last Question https://en.wikipedi...i/The_Last_Question
" It was Asimov's favorite short story of his own authorship ..." [8th of 7, Nov 15 2015]

Atheist Churches http://www.usatoday...a-churches/3489967/
[LimpNotes, Nov 16 2015]


       "Bourgeois" is the obvious word.
pertinax, Nov 14 2015

       I think naming a piece of minced meat after a Frenchman may be seen as being in poor taste at present.
MaxwellBuchanan, Nov 14 2015

       frit sandwich au boeuf ; Le bœuf haché or sandwich au bœuf haché and maybe try merde dans un chignon. Do you want pommes de terre frites profondes with that?
travbm, Nov 14 2015

       You're probably aware that, even before this incident, the aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle was sailing towards the Middle East.   

       I now picture that same ship, seen front on. On the bow, just below the name of the ship, I imagine a neatly stencilled message: "Je suis Charlie".
pertinax, Nov 14 2015

       "Nous sommes Charlie", shirley ?   

       "Burger" is short for "Hamburger" which itself derives from "Hamburg steak" (don't mention the War).   

       As a dish of Teutonic ancestry, mention of a nation that invaded france no less than three times in 70 years might by some be considered a little lacking in tact.   

       Renaming a more quintisentially Anglo-Saxon dish seems appropriate.
8th of 7, Nov 14 2015

       // Charley says "Don't talk to strangers". //   

       Statistically, the person least likely to hurt, harm or abuse a child is a complete stranger.   

       // Charlie Hebdo says "Christianity is a lie".//   

       Sp. "Religion is a lie".
8th of 7, Nov 15 2015

       Most of you realise that I actively promote the idea that religion is equivalent to stupidity, but that’s not really enough. I can’t just sit here alone pumping out my videos that inform people that religious people are by definition stupid, I need help. But that’s not enough either.   

       What is required at the root is a strong education ethic that isn’t there to support any willy-nilly college that wants to cash in on the degree and certificate mania, but rather, a truly humanity- benefiting education ethos that gets people to stop actually believing in stupid fairy stories and myths and fiction (rather than comparatively harmlessly being entertained by them or using them as analogy and parable) and instead actually becoming aware of reality.   

       You know, actual measurable quantifiable reality. The stuff we all live in (as far as we can ascertain, that is, philosophy permitting). The stuff that isn’t just made-up crap, like religion and gods and enforced kneeling on towels instead of getting work done.   

       Robot labour of the future will to a certain extent relieve people of having to even understand technology, and as we head toward an age of hypertechnology (definition linked to, all the way up there), who cares how stuff works? My main concern is that we’ll shift from having to get good at actual science and STEM subjects because that’s where the workforce demand used to be in the 20th century, to coasting by in a business degree because that seems easier than science (because I saw Wall Street when it was on telly and I wish to win the career lottery by getting a job as a “manager”), to a straightforward surrender to avoiding anything that seems like understanding it at all will be hard work and instead simply believing that some mysterious force is guiding all our lives and we’re just powerless followers. That’s the trajectory I wish to actively divert.
Ian Tindale, Nov 15 2015

       right... so, China.
FlyingToaster, Nov 15 2015

       Was reading about social exchange theory the other day, which basically states that rational beings form relationships based on a positive exchange of value. And while humans don't usually behave rationally, their actions can be examined rationally (ie. as a response to anger, guilt, fear, sexual desire, etc.) so the theory can be applied to most situations.

Most interesting I thought was the implication that, being rational, people will choose the course that is most valuable. The cling to a religion indicates that there is some value there, if only perceived, and the resistance to change indicates that perceived value is significant.

I have no problem with religion. It's simply a set of rules believed by a large population. A fraternity. And so I classify it along with any other fraternity, including atheism. As long as there is a greater social benefit than cost, I can forgive the stupidity of some of it. Intelligence is not really a virtue in society after all, otherwise you'd all be hoisted aloft and wafted with fronds. Quite simply, other virtues take precedence, and religion address these better than intellectuals... so far.

But when the social cost of a fraternity becomes greater than the benefit, that is where the value is lost in my eyes, and when that fraternity represents a real threat, the allowed existence of that fraternity may be questioned. When the threat is small, avoidance is better, and when large, engagement. In the later case, one of the fraternities perishes, the other continues, and balance is restored. At least until the next cycle.
LimpNotes, Nov 15 2015

       How is atheism a fraternity? Is aegonapoleonism (the belief that you personally are not Napoleon) also a fraternity?
pocmloc, Nov 15 2015

       Citoyens burger (citizens citizen).
bhumphrys, Nov 15 2015

       // Is aegonapoleonism (the belief that you personally are not Napoleon) also a fraternity? //   

       That depends whether or not you're Spartacus ...
8th of 7, Nov 15 2015

       When all the religions are gone and the machines rule man, the will to live will be gone like all the religions men put their faith in except the lucky ones that chose Jesus and died and went to heaven.
travbm, Nov 15 2015

       Really ?   

8th of 7, Nov 15 2015

       The Halfbakery: "Let There Be" lite.
MaxwellBuchanan, Nov 15 2015

       //How is atheism a fraternity? Is aegonapoleonism (the belief that you personally are not Napoleon) also a fraternity?//

In that it has a collection of shared rules and it has a large following, but more importantly, the followers of these rules find social value in associating with others who share those rules. No value is found in associating with someone who believes they are not Napoleon, its a rarity and there is no fraternity, but if enough people thought it was important, then it would become so.

I guess I should mention that each fraternity is composed of other fraternities that cling to the rules more or less tightly and sometimes with subtle variations in their beliefs. And the human condition creates a single large fraternity of which we are all a part.

Those who cling to sub-fraternity rules, and wish to kill others who are not in line with those rules, are the ones who have sacrificed their social value to the others in this mega-organization, and are therefore a danger. If history is examined, these types can be found in any camp where rules are found. Organizational, religious, political, cultural, tribal, and atheist. The reality though is that most people in these camps do not do this evil. Most people seek peace.
LimpNotes, Nov 15 2015

       //"Nous sommes Charlie", shirley ? //   

       No, "Je suis [...]", because it's a pun on the name of the ship. (And not a serious policy suggestion - so don't worry, [bigsleep])
pertinax, Nov 15 2015

       // a pun on the name of the ship //   

       There's absolutely nothing amusing about charles de gaulle.
8th of 7, Nov 15 2015

       //that it has a collection of shared rules// I never knew! Please tell me the rules, I always wanted to be atheist, and actually I thought I was doing fairly well, but now you make me think I'm missing some vital aspects of it, if I don't know the rules and don't associate with other atheists. Oh dear.
pocmloc, Nov 16 2015

LimpNotes, Nov 16 2015

       //nothing amusing about charles de gaulle//   

       Oh, I dunno; I thought some of the cartoons they did of him in 1968 were quite good.
pertinax, Nov 16 2015

       Atheism would help but not ultimately solve this problem, you're talking about a speciation driver, it's built in to life, be it accidentally or deliberately created
theircompetitor, Nov 16 2015

       // life, be it accidentally or deliberately created //   


       "More human than human" is our motto.   

8th of 7, Nov 16 2015

       The meal of peace:   

       Eine Frankfurter mit ein Hamburger und Zeuer Kraut
Moustard a la Maionnaise
Humus Allah Tehinni ind Fallafel wa Zehuq and a cup of tea
pashute, Nov 16 2015

       Atheism isn’t the thing, it’s nothing more than a distraction. You can call yourself an atheist or not, or something else if you like. It really doesn’t matter. It’s not the thing in question.   

       The thing in question is two-fold.   

       Firstly: Whether a person or a community should place their entire understanding of life in something fictional. Or choose not to, and instead simply treat the fiction as what it is, merely an entertaining and possibly inspirational parable or story, but nothing more. I mean, present company excepted, you wouldn’t really take seriously any grown adult that is honestly deluded into thinking that star trek, or star wars, or harry potter, or sherlock holmes, is in any way real and is in any way a fundamental guide to life.   

       Secondly: Whether the state that you live in should have the audacity to disempower the individuals within and forcibly govern the way of thinking to align with that state’s ideology, especially when it is based on a fiction. This must be fought and eradicated.
Ian Tindale, Nov 16 2015


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