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Illogical Proofs   (+2, -4)  [vote for, against]
A blog that uses accepted rules of logic to prove grossly inaccurate claims.

This is an idea for a blog or website, called "Illogical Proofs." The blog is devoted to proving ridiculously wrong contentions using skewed logic in proofs. For example:

1. Cheese is made up mostly of fats.

2. Fats are mostly carbon. Thus, cheese is mostly carbon (Syllogism).

3. Diamonds are mostly carbon. Thus, cheese and diamonds are the same thing (Detachment).

4. Diamonds can withstand temperatures of up to 6,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

5. Apollo 11's landing jets produced temperatures close to 6,000 degrees.

6. The Moon withstood those temperatures during the Apollo moon landing. Thus, the moon is made of diamonds.

7. If the Moon is diamond, and diamonds are the same thing as cheese, then the moon is made of cheese (Detachment).

Proofs like to one above would be regularly posted in order to prove all sorts of ludicrous proposals.
-- DrWorm, Jan 28 2011

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"Does the Universe have a secret? If you say 'no', then you must already know everything. This is the true story of how I stumbled on the long sought after 'unification theory' or 'theory of everything' or 'quantum gravity,'... completely by accident. I wasn't even looking for the answer to the mysteries of 'dark matter' or 'dark energy.' I just tripped over them by mistake." [zen_tom, Jan 28 2011]

She's a witch! http://www.youtube....watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g
[Jinbish, Jan 28 2011]

Hey, Doc, you ever heard of the National Enquirer ?
-- 8th of 7, Jan 28 2011


[-] I don't see the fun in this. Yes, languages developed for rude communication based on the physical world don't necessarily fit the imaginary world of logic and mathematics. Is this a surprise ?

But I can pop the balloon at #2 anyways:
"mostly" isn't the same as "mostly mostly" even within the constraints of conversational English.

Buns are notations in the HB database. Bones are notations in the HB database. Therefore a bun is a bone. See where I'm going with this ?
-- FlyingToaster, Jan 28 2011


Logical Failures: Step 2 Diamonds are purely carbon. (Contaminants in the structure are not part of the diamond). Step 3 This is a generalization, not detachment (for detachment to be valid, prior statements must be complete to the point of excluding other possibilities). Step 6 Unstated assumption (Diamond is not the only thing that can withstand those temperatures.

Since this isn't using the accepted rules of logic, I'd say the basic premise of the idea is false.
-- MechE, Jan 28 2011


Probably best if you steer away from a career in politics or journalism, [MechE]
-- 8th of 7, Jan 28 2011


It's common knowledge that logical syllogisms can produce all sorts of ridiculous but valid conclusions. And I think this should be demonstrated, however, not necessarily in the form presented in the idea.

The trick is to start from true statements, which was not done here, and end up with a false but valid conclusion. Off the top of my head I will try:

All humans are mammals. Dr worm is a human. Therefore dr worm is a mammal. All mammals feed on their mothers breast milk. Therefore Dr worm feeds on his mother's breast milk. Breast milk is considerably fatty. Those who eat considerably fatty things are likely fat. Therefore dr worm is likely fat off of his mother's breast milk.
-- rcarty, Jan 28 2011


No dog has 6 legs. Most dogs have 4 legs more than no dog. Therefore dogs have 10 legs.

One scientist x from Swaziland used inconclusive data to write his report, therefore all global warming is a corrupt conspiracy.
-- RayfordSteele, Jan 28 2011


Perhaps the legs are concealed behind the sofa?
-- pocmloc, Jan 28 2011


Sounds like the cue for a conspieracy theory ...

This dog, does it have a nose ? How does it smell ?
-- 8th of 7, Jan 28 2011


FlyingToaster: Thanks for the bun!

MechE: Thanks for pointing out the logical failures. The point of the exercise is to use horrible, horrible logic (I could point out many more flaws in the proof myself!).

rcarty: That I'm a human is just an assumption. I could be a worm, or a dog, because on the internet, no one knows you're a dog. That said, your logic is correct; I was, at one point, fat off of my mother's breast milk.

All in all... yeah, this idea could probably be better put.
-- DrWorm, Jan 29 2011


Yeah, I don't get this.

If it's meant to be a sort of semantic game, well, OK, yeah, OK.

If it's meant as some sort of attempt to point out logical inconsistencies in formal logic, then it sort of fails.
-- MaxwellBuchanan, Jan 30 2011


More the former than the latter.
-- DrWorm, Jan 30 2011



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