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This looks fun. I'm on the waitlist.
DALL-E 2
https://openai.com/dall-e-2/?labs Art by AI from text input [RayfordSteele, Jul 28 2022]
https://www.gutenbe...b/51531/pg51531.txt
[a1, Jul 28 2022]
In its own style?
https://lifehacker....eally-me-1818808264 Good artists copy, great artists steal. [a1, Jul 29 2022]
crAIyon -
https://www.craiyon.com/ A mini version of DALL-E, open to all, no waiting. [a1, Jul 29 2022]
https://alternative...et/software/dall-e/
Other DALL-E alternatives [a1, Jul 29 2022]
Paint curiosity
https://ibb.co/42YjM7C Apparently it took the word paint literally... [RayfordSteele, Jul 30 2022]
Another image generator
https://www.theverg...nterview-david-holz [a1, Aug 04 2022]
With apologies to [xenzag]
https://ibb.co/3BxDMMM A recent HB concept visualized by DALL-E [a1, Aug 14 2022]
Borrowed or stolen?
https://www.engadge...vacy-160034656.html [a1, Aug 14 2022]
"Stolen" is such an ugly word
https://www.youtube...watch?v=gXlfXirQF3A [Voice, Aug 14 2022]
More robot suitcases with legs
https://ibb.co/jv3gn02 Leave out style hints and you get photo-realism - but kinda bland [a1, Aug 14 2022]
DALL-E 2 Content Policy
https://labs.openai...cies/content-policy [a1, Aug 21 2022]
Example of text blurring
https://ibb.co/RCbqS0H I cant find where its against stated policy. [a1, Aug 21 2022]
But you can name artists to evoke a style
https://ibb.co/QQx3tnZ e.g., a line drawing cartoon in the style of Tom Toles. [a1, Aug 21 2022]
Another example of what it does with people and text
https://ibb.co/0yWvzjq Prompt was Nikola Tesla having a discussion with Bigfoot, drawn in a Mort Walker cartoon style. Notice it couldnt generate dialogue w/o a prompt, and it has no concept for what Bigfoot looks like. Not a good Tesla either [a1, Aug 21 2022]
Article about AI
https://www.nytimes...ology-progress.html Mentions both DALL-E *and* croissants !!! [a1, Aug 24 2022]
AI wins art competition
https://arstechnica...test-annoys-humans/ [a1, Aug 31 2022]
I still think he painted himself into a corner
https://www.bbc.com...nment-arts-63634961 [a1, Nov 16 2022]
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Thank you for sharing this. |
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this is from OpenAI same tech as the poets I linked recently |
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Dalle 2 is impressive for AI, but the way they crippled it (with the intent to prevent making deep fakes) ruined it. Anything that might somehow start to resemble a human face is replaced with a big ugly smear. So my "There is a lake in a forest. There is one canoe in it. An old man wearing an ushanka is fishing and smoking a cigar" turned out beautifully 6 out of 10 shots, except his head was an ugly blob every time. |
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Wow, [a1], that story is glorious. Thanks for posting it. It takes real talent to write like that. |
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Read more Kornbluth. Better than Asimov or Bradbury. So sad he didn't live long enough to prove it to a broader market. |
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And he foresaw the inevitable conflict between human created & machine manufactured art over 70 years ago. |
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I would if evil copyright laws didn't have 70 year old stories locked down. edit: Wow, I see there are many up on good ol' Gutenburg. |
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So I'm wondering what would happen if you would ask it to do some art in its own style? |
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Get on the waiting list and find out. |
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Other semi-interesting takes would be to have it paint some abstract nouns lile curiosity or foolishness and see what it does with it. |
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[RayfordSteele] - I just threw your example request "paint some abstract nouns like curiosity or foolishness" to crAIyon (link) and got a bunch of blobby rounded rectangles, melted together, in various colors. |
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I kinda like Mondrian, but I think he painted himself into a corner. |
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//a bunch of blobby rounded rectangles// That's what happens when you're talking to an AI which doesn't know the difference between abstract art and an abstract noun. |
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// doesnt know the difference // |
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Concur. Though Id go further and say knowing anything is out of scope for GPT3. Gives me an idea about how to grade/test an AI for sentience, but that might require a separate HB posting. |
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This is what I got when I asked it to "paint curiosity"
[Link] |
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Oversized eyes, nose, and mouth to emphasize desire to accept input, creative colors. Maybe it does understand. Only the sardonic expression isn't curious. |
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Hey Ray, "Paint curiosity" link's broken. Got another one? |
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[doctorremulac3] go to the craiyon link and try it. It throws something different out each time. |
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I can't use that site, or rather I am unwilling to permit 40 advertising and tracking scripts. Is there a better one? |
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[Voice], I too have some misgivings about it being hosted on Discord, I just posted it because it seemed on point here. I posted an article about other image generators a few days ago. |
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//painted himself into a corner// |
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If I admit to liking the Mondrian joke, will people think I'm square? |
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// will people think I'm square? // |
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Don't let yourself be boxed in by what others think. |
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// Im on the wait list // |
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[RayfordSteele], Did you get in yet? I got admitted today. |
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Hey, those luggages are pretty good |
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I tried entering other HB ideas into craiyon, but it just isn't up to the task. |
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// Anything that might somehow start to resemble a human face is replaced with a big ugly smear // |
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Yes, and on some drawing prompts it will also jumble words. I wanted to illustrate Amazon Prime Movers and it would only put weird letter combinations in (link). I thought it might be them avoiding trademarks, but other cartoons I wanted that had misspellings or just weird squiggly lines where lettering should have been. |
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As for faces, beyond ugly smears theres also a policy against even caricatures of real people, at least well known ones: Do not attempt to create images of public figures (including celebrities). I had the name of one in a prompt for a cartoon and it flat out refused to draw it. |
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DESCRIBE them, but not by name (e.g. a thin, pale, old, white haired man wearing aviator sunglasses) - and you can get away with it. |
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Thats good at least for teaching. To get good results from DALL-E you have to write good descriptions. |
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Do we know for sure this is a computer and not a couple of kids with photoshop SAYING it's AI? |
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Because if they were to charge for this, that would be a pretty clever scam. |
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Things get fuzzy around Mechanical Turk levels of automation. What percentage of human input makes it non-AI? If I, a human (I deny vigorously any claims to the contrary) say "draw a lake" and a computer draws one that involves some human input, does it not? So from the beginning it's a relative amount of input. Until a computer is deciding on its own to ask another computer to draw something it's partially human made. And who told the AI what a lake is? Are they completely trained from scratch without expert guidance? If so it's still human documents they got the definition of "lake" from. Okay, I'm rambling and will now stop. |
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[a1] would you happen to have an image host with fewer tracking scripts and adblock blockers? |
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// would you happen to have an image host with fewer tracking scripts and adblock blockers? // |
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Sorry, no. I went the other way - I'm comfortable with my own firewalls and content blockers, so snoopy things on most sites don't worry me. |
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The prompt provided is human input, and so too is the human looking at the output and saying if they like it or not. So, to be totally autonomous the machine has to decide off its own initiative to do the artwork, and then create it, and not show it to any humans. |
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[Voice]! thinking back to what you said yesterday
is there any image hosting site you *would* be comfortable accessing? As I already block trackers and popups on my end, I cant judge which ones would be less offensive to you anyone else on their end. Can you help me help you? |
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//The prompt provided is human input, and so too is the human looking at the output and saying if they like it or not. So, to be totally autonomous the machine has to decide off its own initiative to do the artwork, and then create it, and not show it to any humans.// |
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Good point. Do they only show the good ones like the astronaut on the horse and hide ones that don't work? Are we seeing 100% of the outcome from these? Be curious to find out. |
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// are we seeing 100% of the output? // |
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Craiyon shows up to 9 images per prompt. DALL-E gives 4. Both let you give additional feedback, edit your prompt to try to get better results. |
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Thanks for asking. Imgur works with only a couple of scripts permitted (although it's still sketchy because the site is so big it can afford to perform tracking with only native scripts) imagebam.com works with only one. put.re too, perhaps. |
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[Voice's anti modern art rant] |
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People paying ridiculous amounts for art, & Musk paying a ridiculous amount for Twitter, can be summed up in one word: Smeagol.
"It's my birthday & I wants it!"
And if two obscenely rich people wants it, the price rises until one of then is bored. That then becomes "the price" of the object, & next time, it all starts again from there. |
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