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Thought it was the guy who played Long John Silver in the Disney movie but supposedly it appears earlier than that in some flick from the 30s.
Whoever was the first to decide pirates say "Arrrgh!" and put it on screen needs more credit that any other actor I can think of.
I'd put a star on Hollywood
Blvd. too.
Give an honorary Grammy to the first person that made a trumpet say "Waaa waaa" for that disappointment sound effect while we're at it.
He might not have been the first, but he certainly made it what it is today.
https://www.youtube...watch?v=yC_PR7YWQOc [doctorremulac3, Nov 01 2022]
Did pirates ever actually talk like, well... pirates?
https://www.youtube...watch?v=SQB_gCBMzGg Interesting. [doctorremulac3, Nov 01 2022]
International Talk Like A Pirate Day
https://en.wikipedi...k_Like_a_Pirate_Day [doctorremulac3, Nov 02 2022]
Wilhelm Scream
https://en.wikipedi...wiki/Wilhelm_scream Everyone will recognise it. [AusCan531, Nov 03 2022]
The Wilhelm Scream
https://en.wikipedi...wiki/Wilhelm_scream He got a few awards. No '..Gh's, though. [mylodon, Nov 03 2022]
(?) Video explanation of the Wilhelm Scream.
https://www.google....tDPGP4-EPiamiqAU_40 [AusCan531, Nov 03 2022]
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you're right, I actually saw that then suggested the talking trombone thing. |
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Whoever did it by whatever instrument they should get a Grammy. I mean, think about it. Somebody said this sound they created that has nothing to do with dissapointment will now be the unworded audio of dissapointment. THAT'S creativity! |
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It's not really an individual's invention; it's just a reference to the accent/ dialect of the south- west of England, where a lot of pirates originated. Until quite recently, you could still hear people "talking like a pirate" in Bristol, for example, because that's just how they talk there. |
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For example, I used to know a girl who had gone to primary school in Bristol, and when she got on the bus reach morning, aged about ten, the driver would greet her with "Morrnin' my loverr!" |
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I think you're referring to Rhotic pronunciation of Rs which is common in some areas of the US as well. But that growl, that my guess was a derivation of "Ayy" as an expression of affirmation common among sailors, was taken and modified into the piraty growl by somebody and put on film as a character signature. |
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So no matter what the accent was (and the soft R of somebody from southern England would have sounded, we'll just say, not scary) somebody made it into that pirate growl and they didn't get it from literature or recordings. |
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As far as I know, somebody created that. It was certainly perfected by Robert Newton. I'm fine with giving it to him. |
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Whatever the case, check out the link. Interesting. |
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It's not just rhotic; it's a whole accent and set of speech patterns. "Treasure Island" was originally set around Bristol (except for the parts that were set in the Caribbean), and that's where the convention comes from that this is how pirates sound |
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Yes, but it's not the accent I'm talking about, it's just the "Arrgh!" which I think, I'm not sure, is a camped up version of "ayy, sort of a slang version of yes. And specifically, with that growl. I think that was created by Robert Newton. |
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Put it this way. If it was an expression before him, he certainly made it what it is today by his performance yes? |
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Put it another way. If it weren't for him, if you asked anybody in the world what a pirate says, would they answer "Arrgh!"? Try it. Not "maty" or "shiver me timbers". Everybody answers "Arrgh!". |
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I say give the man credit. |
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Fine, present the Oscar. But don't blame me if the stage is stormed by an angry mob of janners and brizzles yelling about culchrrl approp'iation. |
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Blame? That'd be the most awesome Oscar show in history. |
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I'm going to start celebrating International Talk Like A Pirate Day. (link) |
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It should at least be named after the guy, or least after his character, like the Wilhelm Scream [link] |
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I feel like it is the time to start linking to the Wilhelm Scream. |
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Okay, while we're at it, that guy needs an honorary Oscar for sound production. |
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I don't believe there's anybody that wouldn't be for that. They have a sound category, I think that guy would get a standing ovation. |
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"Whats a pirates' favorite letter?" |
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"Ye'd think so, but no. Me first love has always been the C." |
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^ But, without a 'P', I'm irate. |
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