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Hullaballoon

Tractor balloon driven airship
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A personal airship both lofted and propelled, at a leisurely pace, by a series of balloons tethered to a conveyor belt which moves along the vertically-oriented perimeter of the longitudinal axis of the craft. Each balloon inflates as it moves from the underside of the ship, up around the prow, reaching peak inflation above the center of the ship. The balloons then deflate as they move around and down the backside.
bristolz, Apr 05 2002

Hullaballoon Conceptual Doodle https://web.archive...un/hullaballoo.html
(37Kb image) [bristolz, Apr 05 2002]

Try these guys for T-shirts. http://www.cafepres.../cp/info/index.aspx
No set-up charges, no inventory (just slightly inflated prices). [angel, Apr 08 2002]

Wheelloon http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Wheelloon
ground variant inspired by Hullaballoon [FarmerJohn, Sep 01 2002]

(?) getting closer http://wiredblogs.t...og?entry_id=1410810
personal balloon transport [neilp, Feb 13 2006]

(?) Recursive jousting http://www5.geometr...ting_page_no_4.html
Number 66 [spidermother, Jul 22 2006]

Hullaballoon precursors http://www.bigredha...airships/index.html
These inventions by Reade are not direct antecedents of the Hullaballoon tractor-driven concept, but they do share some familial traits and are so fascinating in their own right that they beg to be included in the general discussion. [jurist, Sep 14 2006]

zimmy's link as a link http://www.hullaballoon.com/
[po, Jan 04 2008]

Amazing new blimp, maybe based on the Hullaballoon http://airshipworld...ures-and-video.html
Bizarre. I wonder whether the designer ever saw bristolz concept. [django, Apr 25 2008]

In action, (sortof) http://goofans.com/...nnovation-committee
World of Goo has a level in which one option is to construct essentially a hullaballoon. [RayfordSteele, Jun 14 2010]

recursive_20jousting The link above is broken; here's where I adopted the idea. [spidermother, Feb 08 2012]

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       How HalfBaked can you get? Croissant.
phoenix, Apr 05 2002
  

       Better polish the silver platter, you're going to need it
thumbwax, Apr 05 2002
  

       Oh very nice indeed! Loved the drawering, looks a bit Yellow Submarinish but definitely aerial.
Dog Ed, Apr 05 2002
  

       Very original, maybe it would even work, I don't know. Croissant just for the name, the actual idea is gravy. :^) But in the drawing.... are the wheels on the top of the fuselage supposed to be in contact with the tread/belt? Because it looks like the balloons are lifting them off of the wheels, in which case you might be losing power. Maybe the wheels should go on the bottom instead.... also that way they could double as regular wheels for surface transport. (hmm, if land-water vehicles are amphibious, what is a land-air vehicle?)
Jeremi, Apr 05 2002
  

       Is it a bird? No! Is it a plane? No! Oh my gosh it's the semi-peristaltic multi-bladdered aeromorphic traction coach!
entremanure, Apr 05 2002
  

       Sorry, [bris]; there's absolutely no way in the world that this would work. Croissant anyway.
angel, Apr 05 2002
  

       [bris] angel's right. There's so many reasons as to whay this won't work I don't know where to start. Fantastic. Just what the halfbakery is all about, and too long since we've had a decent, really half-thought out, conceptually flawed, semi baked, speculative, imaginative (and I might say expertly illustrated) idea like this one. Croissant.
goff, Apr 05 2002
  

       madness, sheer bloody madness. & a delightful start to my friday morning. croissant. perhaps you could illustrate others ideas too ?
mymus, Apr 05 2002
  

       Given the choice, this is how I would get to work each day.
xrayTed, Apr 05 2002
  

       beautiful.
st3f, Apr 05 2002
  

       wind blows you to work in the morning, ... then you pack up to go home at the end of the day and oh no the wind is still blowing that direction. What to do? Well, could the balloons have a rigid side which you angle against the wind so that you could 'tack' home, like in a sailing boat? Or would that make them too heavy against the helium that fills them? How much does helium cost by the way? is this going to be more cost-effective than driving? quicker? more environmentally friendly? how many people can it carry at once?
sappho, Apr 05 2002
  

       Done: Yes, No, Not much, Yes, Yes, Yes, Scads.
thumbwax, Apr 05 2002
  

       You've outdone yourself. Amazing. The quintessential half-baked idea.   

       I regret that I have but one croissant to give you.   

       I'm trying to picture the operator's view out the windows... a continuous series of inflating balloons moving up and overhead, out of view. Priceless.
waugsqueke, Apr 05 2002
  

       hot air balloons rule!
mihali, Apr 05 2002
  

       This one is T-Shirt material. Excellent work. You're completely off your rocker, bris - hope you can stay there a while.
quarterbaker, Apr 05 2002
  

       My initial thought was that this idea should be linked to from the help file as an example of just what we're looking for. But then all the lame ideas would be "hullaballoon with a scrolling text messaging system," and "hullaballoon ponytail fasteners," and "helloballoon," etc.
beauxeault, Apr 05 2002
  

       Shape the balloons like big air-scoops when they inflate to provide <chicken run> 'thrrrrrust.' </chicken run>
Sappho, you can't tack unless you have something to push against.
RayfordSteele, Apr 05 2002
  

       [RayfordSteele] stole my idea. Make the balloons more paddle-like and maybe you'll get some thrust.
phoenix, Apr 05 2002
  

       I thought that was part the intent of bris's idea - "both lofted and propelled..." I understood that the inflated balloons would push the vehicle forward, while the deflated balloons would not work against the forward motion. In fact, isn't that the whole reason for deflating them?
waugsqueke, Apr 05 2002
  

       Major technical flaws. I can't believe this thing is even... Wow! look at that picture! Croissant!
dag, Apr 05 2002
  

       I'm struggling to figure out how inflating the balloons will push it forwards. Upwards, perhaps, but forwards?   

       This has to be some kind of record, by the way. Only a day old or so and already +25. Congrats.
RayfordSteele, Apr 05 2002
  

       So why doesn't it work? It seems possible if the baloons are slightly rigid and the cabin is not too heavy...
RobertKidney, Apr 05 2002
  

       Rayford... as I picture it: as the inflated balloons were pushed backward by the belt, the air would tend to keep the balloon in place (to some degree - of course there would still be some backward movement), and hence the vehicle would move forward.
waugsqueke, Apr 05 2002
  

       The material for the balloons would have to be incredibly strong.   

       "Captain's log: It's another beautiful day on the Hullaballoon, blue skies and not a cloud in sight. Lots of birds around today... in fact, I can see one right now heading straight towards one of the balloo-"   

       -POP-   

       *Writing scrabbles off.*
Pseudonym #3, Apr 06 2002
  

       Waugs, right. I understand that part. I guess I thought she meant that the balloon inflation would also power the belt, which of course wouldn't happen.
RayfordSteele, Apr 06 2002
  

       I want one.
Skinny Rob, Apr 06 2002
  

       Very good. Very W. Heath Robinson too - although he would have drawn the balloons with some puncture-repair patches on and the string with a few knots in.
As well as these balloons which move around the fuselage in a vertical plane, there should also be a set of balloons which move around in a horizontal plane (i.e. down one side, around the front, down the other side and round the back). Moving these balloons will allow the thing to steer.
Oh yeah - and you need some gyroscopes. Got to have gyroscopes.
Croissant.
hippo, Apr 06 2002
  

       This is amazingly silly...I love it.
StarChaser, Apr 06 2002
  

       bris -- The t-shirt idea: not just for me personally, but I thought it would make a great halfbakery T-shirt, at least as one-of-a-group for the NEXT official t-shirt. I don't know how jutta's t-shirts have been selling, so maybe her inventory argues against a new model. But we could do up a full-color one. If there's enough interest, I'll handle the merchandising, if bris can do illustrations.
quarterbaker, Apr 08 2002
  

       (linky) for a T-shirt supplier.
angel, Apr 08 2002
  

       Actually, I have something else in mind for t-shirt material and then only with Jutta's explicit input. Oddly, I had the wackiest dream last night about being involved in the production of a TV commercial for the halfbakery. The whole thing was just so . . . wrong.
bristolz, Apr 08 2002
  

       (don't worry bris - last night I dreamt I was the Prime Minister (of the UK))
sappho, Apr 08 2002
  

       Simply too precious for words, Bristolz. With 5 cabin windows, are there seats for 10 half-class passengers? May I ask what the attendant's uniform looks like? Obviously she serves croissants only--no fish sandwiches here.
bobzaguy, Apr 14 2002
  

       maintenant je comprends.
IvanIdea, Apr 14 2002
  

       Why stick just to an airship? The balloon conveyor belt itself is an idea that could revolutionise the way we think about balloons connected to conveyor belts. Just think of the possibilities.   

       For example, you could move houses (for a resonable price) to provide a nicer view for the occupants, even if only for a couple of hours. Wouldn't it be nice to be transported to the edge of lake Geneva from the comfort of your own home? You could set up your business online, and wouldn't even need to pay for post and packaging, just send the belt on it's way.   

       It's a great idea, and good for the environment too. You made me chuckle bris ;)
aaarrrggh, Apr 27 2002
  

       love it - croissant
analJoe, Apr 27 2002
  

       [bristolz]: Why is the ship in the illustartion taking a nose-dive? Or is my monitor on a slant...
NickTheGreat, May 29 2002
  

       I think that's just the angle it might travel at - like helicopters.
yamahito, May 29 2002
  

       [ravenswood]: //slower than the actual wind speed //   

       Has to travel at the same speed as the wind.   

       [bris]: Large croissant.   

       There's a strong chance I'll build one of these for this summer's 'who can build the strangest flying craft' * competition. May I?   

       *Not the actual name of the competition, but that's the outcome.
drew, May 29 2002
  

       [NTG]: It travels nose down because the center of lift is slightly aft the center of gravity; my (likely pointless) attempt to have the craft move forward as it rises--modeled after the tilt-path plane of rotorcraft as they accelerate from hover to the point of translational lift (as [yamahito] alludes).   

       [drew]: Be my guest. Take pictures.
bristolz, May 29 2002
  

       Thanks - we take videos as well as pictures, as they tend to produce, ah, interesting, even unique flight paths. There's supposed to be real research involved, but hey, that's never stopped us before.
drew, May 29 2002
  

       Well, just don't be surprised if it doesn't move forward very, um, fast. I'll be (very) curious to know how you engineer the inflation and deflation.
bristolz, May 29 2002
  

       I'm counting on it not moving forward very fast! My 'toy' from last year was a bit too nippy...   

       My immediate thought on the gas control is to run the balloons with valves in their necks, running in a track, picking up delivery tubes as they enter the upper section. Inflation continues to mid track (for authenticity to your idea), then releasing the inflation tube, and quickly picking up a deflation tube to scavenge back the gas, completing this before reaching the lower section. These tubes can be fed though small rotating turntables, attached to a very small pump. A central helium reserve tank will feed both sides. Easy. Helium is a pig to seal though. The R&D reason for this will be explained away by the prototyped in-flight refuelling system I'll be modelling...
drew, May 29 2002
  

       would an airfoil be useful in some way? I picture the next gen. to use an airfoil and big swooping dives (as the balloons are slightly deflated) to generate thrust. That should help with the problem of low forward speed.   

       As for the original design's other tech flaws, when you think about it the drawing shows balloons attached to a wire. Obviously the wire has to actually be a very complicated and sturdy pneumatic tube, to inflate and deflate the balloons. Or you could have remotely controlled little units (pump, tank, and some kind of support so they don't flop around) inside the balloons that inflate them or deflate them according to signals from controls in the cockpit. The "wire" could actually have electrical connections in it, running to each balloon.   

       Or we could jump right to the 3rd gen where the thing looks like a combination of a "flying koosh ball" and a "deflated basketball laying on the ground". The surface would be a smooth sphere, although somewhat smooshed. The core of it would look like a koosh ball does after you tear all the little tendrils off of it; where the base bumps left over represent the holes that helium is pumped through, and little squares drawn around each one give an idea of how the air cells are divided up.   

       This 3rd generation provides 3D movement, and looks like a giant, rolling pumpkin.   

       I'm thinking of building a model aircraft of it (partial scale, the NASA way), either the original hullaballoon with an airfoil or the 3rd generation idea that has no way to move forward yet.
#1Fan, Jun 21 2002
  

       This is priceless...here's my pastry.
vigilante, Jul 29 2002
  

       this is a darn good "invention"
jocelyn, Sep 01 2002
  

       #1Fan: See my link to Wheelloon that seems to be what you're describing as the Hullaballoon 3rd generation.
FarmerJohn, Sep 01 2002
  

       just saying hi to an old friend. it still has my vote intact.
po, Oct 05 2004
  

       Yay!
DrCurry, Oct 06 2004
  

       The recovery of terrific classics like this one is the silver lining of the recent cloud over the bakery.
krelnik, Oct 06 2004
  

       Fantastic! If it doesn't work, we must repeal the relevant physical laws.   

       Have you read "The Twenty One Balloons" by William Pene du Bois?
goldilox, Mar 25 2005
  

       Nope. Is it good?
bristolz, Apr 11 2005
  

       Yes, very good. It's a kid's book, very much in the vein of Jules Verne, with lots of marvelously inventive balloon ideas. The Hullaballoon reminded me of it.
goldilox, Apr 11 2005
  

       I'll add it to my list. Thank you!
bristolz, Apr 11 2005
  

       I feel I must apologies for not having acquainted myself with this idea earlier.   

       I have nothing to add on the -this surely is what the half-bakery is all about' line of discussion.   

       As for making this work, I foresee 2 sets of wings, both with variable pitch. The balloons do not have a constant inflation either, meaning the ship is never horizontally stable ( until landing etc.). I haven't thought it through, but I feel a movement of centre of gravity from front to back (through balloons) combined with variable angle of wings could allow for a swooping forward movement.
afrocelt, Jul 15 2005
  

       Yeah, seasickness beats airsickness every time.
bristolz, Jul 15 2005
  

       What if the central premise was a wheel like contraption with opposing baloons attached to a central tank?   

       As upper baloons were fed by lower baloons the former would get bigger while the latter would shrink.   

       The conveyor tube could also do this by keeping the channel completely open, gasses would naturally rise. If the apex of the conveyor was at the location of the most inflated balloon, you could place a bite-nipple opening so that the baloon at the apex has the most open opening and the rest are in varying level of closedness. Think "Camel Back" fluid reservior drinking tube opening.
subflower, Aug 05 2005
  

       Better yet!   

       A single tube shaped bladder with small finlets attached all over it.   

       Gas rises to the top of the bladder, expanding it and 'erecting' the finlets, rings at the fore and aft 'contain' the bladder back into a deflated shape to be pressed against the propulsion wheels. Could be human powered! As a single bladder, the gasses stay in one place and the propulsion is derived from circular motion of the bladder around the craft body.   

       I'm imagining the lower jaw of a blue whale that expands to capture krill.
subflower, Aug 05 2005
  

       Please make this into a T-shirt, or put a picture onto the Halfbakery ID.   

       This *is* what the Halfbakery is all about.   

       Lots of bun.
dbmag9, Oct 24 2005
  

       I've always considered this driven by the inflation and deflation of the balloons. Studying the picture, however, it appears that all of the balloons are connected to a common tube, and bouyancy is what inflates and deflates them. Is this correct? It certainly makes the design less complex.
Worldgineer, Oct 24 2005
  

       Not sure how buoyancy could inflate/deflate anything? If they are connected, the balloons would all be half-inflated and the whole thing would flip over on its side.
DrCurry, Oct 24 2005
  

       Gosh, I don't really remember what I was thinking but I think each balloon was handled independently. The drawing doesn't show that, of course. Those darn conceptual doodles...so inaccurate they are.
bristolz, Oct 24 2005
  

       [DC] Buoyancy will keep the helium at the top just as water would keep at the bottom if you used water instead. Light stuff goes up, heavy stuff goes down. If you mean that the balloons are under high pressure - well, that's not a great idea when you are trying to make LTA vehicles (higher pressure = higher density).   

       [bz] Aw, I guess back to the highly complex. It makes the idea fun anyway (now picturing a little solar-powered pump at the connection point of each balloon).
Worldgineer, Oct 24 2005
  

       I think I thought that there was a central pump and helium cell and that the lines were picked up and dropped off of each balloon at the fore and aft ends of trhe contraption.   

       Although I'm sure it was just a passing thought. I'm not much for rigorous thinking.
bristolz, Oct 24 2005
  

       It would have backup hydrogen powered pumps, of course.
Worldgineer, Oct 25 2005
  

       here's my vote toward number one.
tcarson, Jul 20 2006
  

       + better late than never....
xandram, Jul 20 2006
  

       My vote has been on the masthead for a long time already, but I would give more if I could. This is indeed the best idea I've seen from this place.
hidden truths, Jul 20 2006
  

       <sigh> voted already   

       [angel] love your anno - come back soon, you're missed too.
po, Jul 20 2006
  

       I remember this one. The girl did profess to a love for helicopters. I'd love to see the FAA try to classify this one.
normzone, Jul 20 2006
  

       I am aghast to see that I haven't bunned this yet. Rectified.
wagster, Jul 20 2006
  

       Unfortunately a cursory inspection of the ranks suggests that there aren't enough active bakers at this time to get this up to number one. Even if almost all hadn't voted for this (as I'm sure is not the case), it would still take at least a month on the recent list to accumulate that many votes. Anyone game?
hidden truths, Jul 20 2006
  

       sounds to me as if we need some more bakers.
tcarson, Jul 20 2006
  

       Another "Fishties" perhaps?
Mr Phase, Jul 20 2006
  

       i wasn't around at that point. what was "fishties"?
tcarson, Jul 20 2006
  

       [hidden] If you are asking for a *halfbakery watch*, I'll certainly do my part in keeping this one up as long as possible. It's worth a try.
xandram, Jul 21 2006
  

       i've given my bun, but this idea keeps getting pushed aside. arise, arise i say!
tcarson, Jul 21 2006
  

       I havent been a member too long, but clearly this is.. is... amazing. Part of history. And in a good way, not like Hitler or Stalin... Like the invention of the wheel... If ever there was an idea worthy of a bun, this is it.
Hunter79764, Jul 21 2006
  

       (+) ...casted proudly, even if solemnly.   

       But...
normzone, Jul 22 2006
  

       Yay, gonflable Hullaballoon! I have spent my bun for you.
skinflaps, Jul 22 2006
  

       I didn't vote on this until yesterday, and hadn't annoed until now; somehow I didn't feel worthy. Now's the time. I've often mentioned this to my friends: "There's this website where I live, it's where people post halfbaked ideas and inventions, and one of them is for a kind of balloon-airship, right, and get this, it's got a conveyor belt thingy and..." etc (+).
spidermother, Jul 22 2006
  

       Likewise. This and Recursive Jousting are usually my oral examples of halfbaked ideas.
wagster, Jul 22 2006
  

       Recursive jousting lives! (sort of) (link) Do you remember who posted it? I might adopt it, especially if I can give credit correctly.
spidermother, Jul 22 2006
  

       Some day I may make a prototype of this, in honor of [bristolz]. I'm thinking of using plastic gardening drip tubing, 3-way connectors, paper wheels, a little electric motor, a little solar panel, one set of balloons attached as in the picture, and another set to lift the thing off the ground.
Worldgineer, Jul 22 2006
  

       may? damn it do it in september! I'll send a donation...
po, Jul 22 2006
  

       Seconded
hidden truths, Jul 23 2006
  

       thriced
xandram, Jul 23 2006
  

       [po] et. al. No money required - just time to find the right materials and build the thing. I'll make the time for it.
Worldgineer, Jul 24 2006
  

       That would be something stinkier than a rat, bubs, more like a stanking, jealous, wretched, bull dog of a snake in the grass, type of rat...
blissmiss, Jul 24 2006
  

       "Not even onna stick?"
methinksnot, Jul 25 2006
  

       Hmph. Thought I bunned this one years ago. +
Shz, Jul 25 2006
  

       Brilliant idea [+]. 170 "for" votes and only 3.5 buns? What gives?
MoreCowbell, Jul 25 2006
  

       It's only 2.5 croissants, not 3.5. That's the maximum an idea gets 'round these here parts.
methinksnot, Jul 25 2006
  

       Less than a hundred votes to go now. I'm quite amused that this is causing people to reevaluate their feelings about Panic PIN.
hidden truths, Jul 25 2006
  

       I never though much of that panic-pin (not daft enough for me), but the purpose of this exercise is to support Bristolz's excellent idea, and of course there is the miserable auto-boner. "For every ointment there is a fly"
xenzag, Jul 25 2006
  

       I agree with [xenzag] about Panic Pin. I also was wondering if there were really over 300 users, or did folks have multiple accounts? In that case we might not ever reach our goal unless people subtract their original vote.
xandram, Jul 25 2006
  

       Given that there are over 5,000 accounts with posted ideas (and more who never posted anything), you'd have to have a *lot* of duplicates to get there from 300 users. Although there is a theory that there is only one user on the Halfbakery, i.e. Unabubba.
DrCurry, Jul 25 2006
  

       (obligatory) But I'm [UnaBubba].
Worldgineer, Jul 25 2006
  

       But I am [Worldgineer] !
normzone, Jul 25 2006
  

       Hmm...no link to Wikipedia, and no mention of custard. Aside from that, seems pastry-worthy.
ed, Jul 25 2006
  

       I love you guys!   

       ps- I am not UnaBubba
xandram, Jul 25 2006
  

       Are you sure this isn't baked?
methinksnot, Jul 25 2006
  

       What waugs said...
blissmiss, Jul 25 2006
  

       I think we should sell tickets for Hullaballoon rides...
xandram, Jul 25 2006
  

       <also obligitary> I'm [UnaBubba] and so is my wife. </ao>
hidden truths, Jul 25 2006
  

       Hmm...
I thought I bunned this ages ago, when I first arrived, but it seems not.

+

Much better!
neutrinos_shadow, Jul 26 2006
  

       //no link to Wikipedia//   

       I found the halfbakery's wikipedia entry the other day, didn't know that the.5Bakery had one.   

       A beauty of an idea.
froglet, Jul 26 2006
  

       When I try to explain this website to people, I always tell them about the hullaballoon. To me it's the perfect example of a half-baked idea. I also liked the panic-pin, but in an effort to make this the number one idea, I'm going to change my panic-pin vote to neutral.
Pac-man, Jul 26 2006
  

       The Hullaballoon is the Halfbakery's flagship.   

       (Already bunned, alas!)
7ennyn, Jul 26 2006
  

       there's a tagline there somewhere
po, Jul 26 2006
  

       //there's a tagline there somewhere//
[Marked-for-tagline]
methinksnot, Jul 27 2006
  

       I think you use a tagline to hold down the hullaballoon when it's not flying...
xandram, Jul 27 2006
  

       Just like the Goodyear blimp, the HB Hullaballoon could show up to the superbowl, world cup, ect. to advertise this site, thus bringing in more HB'ers to make this idea #1... But then it couldn't be #1 because it will have already been baked. So what do we do?
Pac-man, Jul 27 2006
  

       11 votes against now? As [UB] said, there's rats in the works.
hidden truths, Jul 27 2006
  

       That is so hard to believe, must be autoboner envy.
xandram, Jul 27 2006
  

       This may be a bit of a hush thing, but I know I voted for this already, and now I can vote again...   

       I'm not complaining: I support the idea behind the bun-a-thon for this, but it would explain the increasing bone count.   

       Please delete this if I have stumbled into some sort of secret/conspiracy/inner circle dealings that must be kept hidden so that we can believe this happened without any tinkering   

       Rise, Hullaballoon, Rise!   

       I wasn't aware that we even had a wikipedia entry. Perhaps we should edit it to attest to the hullabaloon in someway.   

       ie.: The Hullaballoon, by user 'bristolz', is considered the epitome of a halfbakery idea.   

       Or perhaps add a hullaballoon entry all together.   

       Does the community here think that is appropriate?   

       i think the hullaballoon might be a great thing to put on the wiki. it is an example of the halfbakery at its greatest.
tcarson, Jul 29 2006
  

       taking suggestions for a hullaballoon wiki article. i don't want to stuff it up. ideas anybody?
tcarson, Jul 29 2006
  

       TAO, read the "bristolz" thread. It's tampering, not tinkering, least ways in this country. AND WE KNOW TAMPERING, WHEN IT COMES TO VOTING!!!
blissmiss, Jul 29 2006
  

       I had read it, I just wasn't aware it was being done. Like I said, I'm not complaining. I'm just verifying the change.   

       almost got away
MoreCowbell, Aug 02 2006
  

       I keep coming back to this and agree with [The Acrimonious Obfuscator] and [Waugs] regarding the quintissentiality and epitome inherent in this idea.
One more word of praise:
Gonflable!
gnomethang, Aug 03 2006
  

       wouldn't be nice if waugs paid a visit for old times sake. I miss him.
po, Aug 03 2006
  

       He speaks.
blissmiss, Aug 04 2006
  

       He sounds a lot like [blissmiss].
Worldgineer, Aug 07 2006
  

       Many times when driven too far, too many times, a person just can not rebound. I give farmerjohn credit, in that he was able to revisit a painful place, in a most painful time.   

       waugs is waugs.
blissmiss, Aug 08 2006
  

       Beautiful, [UB].
Worldgineer, Aug 09 2006
  

       ...and very moving. [UB]
The_Englishman_Abroad, Aug 09 2006
  

       It brought it to life, as life left it. Thanks UB.
blissmiss, Aug 10 2006
  

       Better jettison some ballast. Phew! We lost a bit of altitude there for a few days.
7ennyn, Aug 20 2006
  

       What will happen to bris's drawings, once her site is gone? Someone needs to make a backup.
DesertFox, Sep 14 2006
  

       DesertFox,   

       I haven't known Bristolz, but it's obvious how good her art and ideas are and I just made a backup of bz.pair.com. The zip file is about 4 MB. I'd be glad to send it you and anyone who wants it for safekeeping, if this doesn't hurt her copyright.
jmvw, Sep 14 2006
  

       I seriously can't believe that people are voting against this. 11 negative votes in over 4 years, then 2 in a day.
hidden truths, Sep 14 2006
  

       Happy Thanksgiving girlie. We will always keep you in our hears.
blissmiss, Nov 23 2006
  

       And our Hearts. ;)
csea, Nov 23 2006
  

       I'll leave it. Cause she would of corrected me as well ;-)
blissmiss, Nov 23 2006
  

       This idea blatantly deserves the number one position. And eventually, I have little doubt that it will eventually achieve that goal. I'm just sorry that BZ won't be around to see it.   

       *would have corrected you* bliss.
hidden truths, Nov 25 2006
  

       Finally got round to bunning this...
jtp, Nov 25 2006
  

       Now get that stupid 'Tails for All' out of the way, and have another [bz] idea there instead.
angel, Nov 25 2006
  

       ditto angel, and hidden truths, the same goes for you as it did for csea.   

       Not to mention the intentional bump.
blissmiss, Nov 25 2006
  

       Profoundly half-baked.
johng, Sep 22 2007
  

       Awesome. One of her greatest HB acheviments (+)
Shadow Phoenix, Oct 18 2007
  

       One of the best on this site [+]
xxobot, Dec 06 2007
  

       I find this not cool: http://www.hullaballoon.com/ grrr!
Zimmy, Jan 04 2008
  

       We undoubtedly have prior art on that name. If we prove a sufficient relationship between the dirigible and party supply industries, would we have legal recourse?
ed, Jan 04 2008
  

       I don't know how such a thing would work, but maybe we owe it to [bristolz] to try. Someone should. The name is too precious. It's ours.
globaltourniquet, Jan 04 2008
  

       There's an amazing variety on this idea. Check link.
django, Apr 25 2008
  

       I'd like to think she'd be okay with it. She seemed to always understand the concept of things being "put out there", or atleast I thought she did. (Plus it's a party thingy for heaven's sake, not a devil-worshipping, cult site...)
blissmiss, Apr 25 2008
  

       "Build it, and they will bun" [+]
coprocephalous, May 21 2008
  

       If I recall correctly, this idea had no fishbones for the longest time. In many ways it has come to be a dedication to the late and wonderful [bristolz]. I just wonder at the mentality or motivation of those who have posted negative votes. Could they not re-consider and take them back? I think that would be a nice gesture.
xenzag, Jan 30 2009
  

       makes me wonder if they should still be up, the poster being deceased and all and unable to respond to comments.
FlyingToaster, Jan 30 2009
  

       //if they should still be up// eh?
po, Jan 30 2009
  

       //the poster being deceased and all and unable to respond to comments.// Strange comment. I still see those fishbones on this idea as the equivalent of envious juvenile graffiti, aimed at defacing a previously untouched art work.
xenzag, Jan 31 2009
  

       //I still see those fishbones on this idea as the equivalent of envious juvenile graffiti//
I'm sure most are; if so they'd hardly be inclined to take them back.
  

       [edit:
//eh?// a bit unfair that the poster isn't able to respond to comments... on the other hand that would mean that I wouldn't have been able to bun this. ]
FlyingToaster, Jan 31 2009
  

       I for one never really understood this idea. Why do the balloons deflate? Why not just keep them inflated?
simonj, Feb 02 2009
  

       The balloons are connected: as the series rotates, the rearmost balloon deflates and its gas inflates the front balloon. There's little moving drag because an inflated balloon doesn't move, the gondola does: it's an upside-down air-tractor.
FlyingToaster, Feb 02 2009
  

       Ah I see. I feel compelled to remove my bone.
simonj, Feb 02 2009
  

       It is neat that this has become somewhat of a memorial spot. I haven't been around long enough to have conversed with bristolz but I often come across her comments and want to respond... but am unsure how because she can not reply. I referred to one of her comments in my latest idea. Interesting how in a way I am conversing with her across the years. Her in 2001 and me in 2009. Nice to think our ideas/annos may still spur conversation years in the future.
paix120, Mar 28 2009
  

       Recent events may have presented a very urgent need for an operational Hullaballoon, but one that is adapted for high altitudes. The US may be hesitant to shoot down the alleged Chinese spy balloon because shooting it down will inevitably damage its high tech spy payload (not available on alibaba.com) which they undoubtedly want to inspect. But they wouldn't be able to retrieve the balloon in flight because aircraft operating at that altitude either wouldn't be able to snag it non-destructively because they fly too fast (planes) or wouldn't be able to navigate precisely enough to get within snagging distance (other balloons). Enter the Hullaballoon! And specifically, a HA (high altitude) Hullaballoon. And for clarity, the HB HA Hullaballoon.
swimswim, Feb 03 2023
  

       Surely a *pair* of high-altitude planes towing a giant cobweb would be able to snag it non- destructively?
pertinax, Feb 03 2023
  

       Yes, this WAS a job for the HBHA HBHA* ,of course pronounced Hubba Hubba <<wiggly eyebrows>>   

       Did anyone ask *what* aerosol droplets and/or particulate might have been IN the balloon before the US punctured it off the coast of South Carolina? That might've been worth having a boo at; 2 planes and a net, indeed.   

       "reclaim debris to study": Picture a bunch of clowns with a firefighter trampoline running around on the deck of the USS Yorktown.   

       *HalfBakery High-Altitude Hullaballoon, Half-Assed
Sgt Teacup, Feb 05 2023
  
      
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