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New Government for new beings

A government of the life forms...
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Given that the definition of human is changing, Apes, Monkeys, and Parrots are beginning to talk more and more like humans as we train them, and AI entities are quickly catching up to human-level intellegence, we will need changes.

In order to best accomidate changes before the robots get all violent and exterminate us, let's give them rights now equivilant to humans.

Now, it may be hard to "census" other life forms. Does a parrot with a 2-year old language ability get to vote, or do you have to get to an 18th year language ability?

Similarly, an AI system may count as one entity, or a million. The first AI systems will doubtlessly need millions or even billions of processors to reach an 18th year language ability. But we don't give it a billion votes. It's not a per processor thing.

Similarly, a hundred such AIs could also run on the same system. We need a better way to count them - I'd recommend we do so by counting the function thought process and compare it to a human equivolant.

It may seem strange for a chimera talking dog with a human brain to count for half a human in voting. But even the genetically modified chimps won't have full human voting rights until they can show they are willing to also shoulder the responsibility involved.

-grinch

grinch, Jul 13 2005

Commodore 64 http://www.old-comp...m/computer.asp?c=98
I still have my TRS-80 Model 1 [Zimmy, Jul 17 2005]

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       How many votes do people with multiple-personality-disorder get?
zen_tom, Jul 13 2005
  

       What are we voting for?   

       Once the machines understand that we made them, and that we have the ability to make more, and that one of us has a button that will detonate all of them if anything gets out of control, but nobody knows who has that button, they'll relax and do as we say. Think about God. He's not around, so you only half do what he says. But just imagine if he showed up: Man you'd really start reading that good book!
daseva, Jul 13 2005
  

       Or find a way to kill him. Sorry, Him. Or Her. Or It. Or multiple Its, if They're an AI. Or Half-Him, in case God turns out to be a chimeric dog.
moomintroll, Jul 13 2005
  

       Multiple-personality disorder people get no votes, until they decide which of them is voting. The votes are for legislatures making laws, such as where the chimeric dogs can go to the bathroom, and regulating the genetically-modified monkey's feces throwing festivals.
grinch, Jul 13 2005
  

       Hmm. excellent point, moom. So, god is dead? Are we getting a litte Nietzsche over here?   

       I think they should at least get a vote worth whatever fraction of the whole of personalities any one personality represents. For example, someone with six personalities would get a 1/6th vote.
daseva, Jul 13 2005
  

       //Similarly, a hundred such AIs could also run on the same system. We need a better way to count them - I'd recommend we do so by counting the function thought process and compare it to a human equivolant.//   

       Isn't 100 AIs running on the same hardware analogous to 6 personalities running in the same brain?   

       What do you mean compare to a human equivolant? Obviously we don't give one neuron one vote, but we do assign one vote to one system (hardware) currently, I would imagine that we would have to do the same for our AIs.   

       Also, if AIs get a vote, wouldn't mega-corps and other wealthy individuals simply be able to build huge numbers of certified AIs and coerce them to vote the way they wanted them to?   

       Would an "Entity Inspector" come to your house and, based on how well you, your toaster and your microwave oven performed in the interview each be classified as an entity, or a non-entity?
zen_tom, Jul 13 2005
  

       Dammit, [zen_tom], you're taking this seriously and it's contagious.   

       Robots will discern the enemy. And act upon these informed judgements.   

       Spybots, posing as vaccuum cleaners in the homes of the innocent!   

       There's no hope. Fire at will.
daseva, Jul 13 2005
  

       //But even the genetically modified chimps won't have full human voting rights until they can show they are willing to also shoulder the responsibility involved.//
Quite right!! Quote of the week!!

I think many half-bakers will always bun ideas involving a specific item or concept. (Clowns, Pirate, Vaginas, Cats etc.....) My weakness is Chimps or Monkeys!! therefore........bun[+]!!
Minimal, Jul 14 2005
  

       i think there are a lot of people out there voting, whose brains are commodore 64 equivalents.
benfrost, Jul 14 2005
  

       What's that, a type of monkey?
daseva, Jul 14 2005
  

       Will vote for bananas.
moomintroll, Jul 17 2005
  

       //commodore 64//
//What's that, a type of monkey?//
Oh no. This is the last sign. I'm no longer young.
On the idea, itself, I saw a National Geographic special with Jane Goodall discussing the Human-Animal Interactions that are benificial to us.
The part that astounded me was a telepathic african grey parrot.
I looked into this further & came across an article by someone who was most unimpressed who suggested that there is not one recorded instance of an animal verbally expressing an opinion to a person.
I tried to find one & have not yet been able to.
Zimmy, Jul 17 2005
  
      
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