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Portable Ultrasound + gyro+accelerometers

=3d ultrasound??
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First, check link [smartphone ultrasound] Now, my idea is to add a gyro sensor to the ultrasound probe, so we know at exactly which angle we got the image. So, If we just sweep the whole area of interest at different angles, can't we construct a 3d image of the "volume" of interest?

One major drawback will be that the patient will have to lie rock solid to get accurate reconstruction.

kamathln, Aug 05 2009

smartphone ultrasound http://blogs.zdnet....mergingtech/?p=1472
couple this with gyro [kamathln, Aug 05 2009]

David Laserscanner http://www.david-laserscanner.com/
3d laser scanning for surface modelling of 3d real life objects. [pocmloc, Aug 05 2009]

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       Not just angle, but accurate 3d position needs measured.
pocmloc, Aug 05 2009
  

       [pocmioc], what do you suggest we use?
kamathln, Aug 05 2009
  

       "rock solid" wouldn't be necessary, but perhaps a mechanism similar to that on computer mice to measure distance moved, since you'll be applying it on the surface of the skin.
FlyingToaster, Aug 05 2009
  

       Three small transmitters which clip out of the base of the unit, place them orthogannally around the object to be scanned, the handheld unit could triangulate its position from them. Obviously they need to be calibrated, perhaps photographically? I belive that some laser scanners use a similar system. The problem is getting the position and angle of the handheld unit to enough accuracy that the scans dont just jumble up. I like the idea of gyro and accelerometer but could it really be accurate enough?   

       Aah [FT] I had been thinking of moving it though the air. If over skin, then yes a mouse wheel thingy would be great.   

       See link for laser scanner.
pocmloc, Aug 05 2009
  

       I think the trick is to use several jointed arms to connect the ultrasound to a fixed point. Then all you need to do is measure all the angles and do some basic math. Gyros and accelerometers will drift too much. 3D ultrasound is baked, but this could be a poor man's version, so (+).
MisterQED, Aug 06 2009
  

       [MisterQED] This *is* supposed to be a poor man's version, but more importantly, a *pocket* version. Any remaining distortions could be algorithmically corrected? Any algorithms that you know?
kamathln, Aug 06 2009
  

       The algorithms you are looking for are called Kalman algorithms and they need a lot of processing power to be worked effectively. My new Wii-motion remote needs re-syncing all the time, but thinking about it, the system I suggested could be very portable. Just have a small clamp or rare earth magnet as a base point, then two short telescopic lengths joined by hinges with angle sensors. It should all collapse down to the size of two pens and take little or no power to operate which keeps the overall size down.
MisterQED, Aug 06 2009
  

       Not bad. not bad at all.
kamathln, Aug 08 2009
  


 

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