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My approach to hills ... is to go around them. I'm happy to add some distance to a ride to avoid steep grades.
I'd like a routing tool that would let me find routes between two points to also include settings to avoid grades steeper than a given percentage and allowing for some extra of miles (either
a fixed number or percantage of total distance) over the shortest or default route.
Some people LIKE the challenge of hills though, and could invert my purpose - find the hiiliest, most challenging route from A to B.
While looking for prior art I did find one website (link) that sorta does this, but it doesn't have all the filters I want and it's not really supported anymore.
Close but not quite
https://www.flattestroute.com/bike/
[a1, Jun 13 2023]
This was my take on the issue
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[21 Quest, Jun 13 2023]
Somebody lose a transcontinental raileroad?
https://en.wikipedi...transport_in_Canada
Canada has a large and well-developed railway system that primarily transports freight. There are two major publicly traded transcontinental freight railway systems, Canadian National (CN) and Canadian Pacific (CP). [a1, Jun 16 2023]
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Google Maps has an option to choose the most fuel efficient route... for cars... which I've always presumed factors in things like uphill stretches of road vs downhill, but I haven't actually done any testing of that theory to see if it holds water. I'll try to remember to do some test drives tomorrow and report back. Not that I'm suggesting it means your idea is baked already, just something that struck me as vaguely relevant lol |
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Thanks, let me know what you find on your drives. |
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I know Google Maps and Apple Maps both take hills into account for bike routing - Apple even has a checkbox to “avoid hills” when routing for bicycles. But they both fall short in a couple of ways. First of all, they’re not very good at it. At least not around here. On local hills for which I *know* the easiest climbs - neither G nor A will offer those routes. |
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Secondly - and more specific to my idea - neither one has the option to let you specify how far out of the way you’re willing to go to avoid a steep grade. I think the reason neither G nor A will show my preferred route up one of my local hills is because it adds about half a mile (1.7 vs 1.2) and they’re at least partly prioritizing for distance. |
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You could just move to Canada. What was once a trans-nation railway has been decommissioned and turned into a bike trail and hiking trail. |
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Guaranteed 2% grade for thousands of miles. |
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Now we use trucks to haul all freight. |
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It's MUCH more efficient apparently given the cost of diesel. |
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//...Canada ... trans-nation railway// - have you ever seen Buster Keaton's "The Railrodder"? |
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//"The Railrodder"// B. Keaton's master work was required viewing at Teacup Academy. Sadly, our institution was run out of town for being too edgy, forward, altogether too useful and presciently relevant; we currently operate as a constantly-moving Hedge School of Guerrilla Gardeners. |
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I tried gorilla gardening, but they kept wandering away from where I had planted them |
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Yeah, they said. And Uncle Gentle said not to worry about the fence; he's sure your insurance will cover it. |
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Ha!
The Railrodder was cool. Thanks for that. |
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First off, they obviously don't make tool boxes the way they used to. I need me one of them. |
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Secondly, that scene where he's standing up to try and see farther on the prairies is spot on.
The running joke is that; in Saskatchewan you can watch your dog run away... |
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I view the loss of our trans Canada railway as an attack on our infrastructure, but I'm just a small fringe minority with uh unacceptable views and so don't matter. |
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You lost an entire railroad? (link). If you can’t keep track of your things, you shouldn’t be allowed to have them. |
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This is why we can't have nice things. |
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