h a l f b a k e r y
It's as much a hovercraft as a pancake is a waffle.
idea:
add, search, annotate, link, view, overview, recent, by name, best, random
meta:
news, help, about, links, report a problem
account:
Browse anonymously,
or get an account
and write.
or Create a new account.
|
|
|
I may well have missed a trick here, so apologies to everyone whose understanding of image compression stretches beyond 10 minutes of google.
My idea is that we could make a whole folder of images compress to less than the sum of their file sizes in exactly the same way as individual images
are compressed, using colour /area sampling etc.
i.e. the application or OS would patchwork all of the images in a folder together (in the order which made most sense for the file format) and then use the same file compression as the individual files on the new whole.
perhaps the link below might be elucidative.
(?) a page explaining my idea better
http://www.neilphillips.com/image.html
four become one [neilp, Oct 04 2004, last modified Oct 05 2004]
[link]
|
| |
In your linked page you state "I've cut up whole.jpg".. thus this is not a valid test. |
|
| |
A valid test would be: start off with an uncompressed image (eg whole.bmp - from a high quality source, not some jpeg converted into a bmp). Then split that into four, and compress into five jpegs (1,2,3,4,whole). |
|
| |
I think you'll find that the file size of whole.jpg will be pretty close to total of the sizes of 1 through 4.jpg (when using the same quality settings.. it might be helpful to use quite low settings in order to visually confirm that the image quality is consistent). |
|
| |
Additional problems with this idea include the difficultly of adding to, removing from and changing individual images in a folder. |
|
| |
Couple of points: Wouldn't applying lossy compression (e.g. JPEG) affect the image boundaries as well? I.e. I'd expect to see some artifacts emerge after uncompression. It'd be OK, but after repeated additions and deletes from the folder, the repeated compression/ uncompression/ rearrangement, etc... will degrade the images over time. But I guess that would depend on the compression type used. |
|
| |
If the algorithm were to arrange the images such that similar images were arranged next to each other, that would reduce this problem. So I'd expect the approach to work best in really large image libraries, when there's enough images to do this effectively, without creating distinct boundaries. |
|
| |
Depending on compression technologies, the algorithm also takes into account regional similarities. For that same reason, the compression ratios are better for your example, since the images are more or less similar in nature. |
|
| |
Try it with a discrete image (like white noise, or GIF photo), and it'll probably fall apart. |
|
| |
Between these points, I'd expect the benefits to average off. |
|
| |