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Leave to Conceive

"Preternity Leave "
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Benevolent employers offer their employees the option to sacrifice some of their maternity/paternity leave in advance in order to maximise their chances of conception.

This would be beneficial for whose work schedule and lifestyle affects their energy levels to such an extent that they cannot keep up the diligence required for them to conceive.

Truly benevolent employers will not require proof that the preternity leave has been spent productively.

Any comments/enhancements would be welcomed. Links to 'best sex positions' sites are not necessary.

Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 05 2004

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       Working in an area where even taking maternity leave indicates that I'm some kind of wuss (I should give birth in the lab or something), I doubt it would take on, but that doesn't mean I'm not all for it. Company sponsored nookie. Great. Would conception have to take place at work?
hazel, Feb 05 2004
  

       On-site conception would not be mandatory, but would demonstrate dedication to getting the job done.
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 05 2004
  

       Would you have to prove your intent to conceive? If you failed to produce a baby 9 months later would they dock your wages?
kropotkin, Feb 05 2004
  

       More to the point if I promise never to take my maternity leave can I increase my holiday allowance instead?
lolo, Feb 05 2004
  

       I keep getting stuck on the idea of having onsite conjugal visit trailers. "Hey, I'm gonna be a little late getting back from lunch. The wife is ovulating, but the nearest trailers were already reserved, I had to get one over at the research building."
DonBirnam, Feb 05 2004
  

       My cousin's wife made him alter his lunch break depending on when she thought she was ovulating (she had it down to the hour). Everyone on the jobsite knew what was going on, and he got endless ribbing everytime he'd rush home for a quickie. He thought he should get to leave his boots on to do the deed to balance out the crap he took at work, but she'd have none of that.
oxen crossing, Feb 05 2004
  

       doesn't anyone want to put in an honest day work, he asked, typing a halfbakery annotation?
theircompetitor, Feb 05 2004
  

       Would also hos and gigolos be “laid off”?
FarmerJohn, Feb 05 2004
  

       I don't know, I'm feeling left out here. Those of us who have made a conscious choice not to breed, and have taken preventative measures should be offered some kind of cookie as well, for not burdening the systems with additional resource requirements.   

       Can I go out for quickies also, or is this privilege only for compulsive breeders ?
normzone, Feb 05 2004
  

       You can have a smoke break or a nookie break, but not both and if you don't do either, you get a "floating holiday" to pursue the leisure activity of your choice.   

       Tell the truth, I can't think of anything less romantic than office-sanctioned love-making. Gag and barf. Keep them the hell out of my love life, please!
k_sra, Feb 05 2004
  

       We're not talking about love-making here, but copulation. Can be more of a chore than not, after several months or years of trying unsuccessfully to get pregnant.
oxen crossing, Feb 05 2004
  

       Don't let your wife hear you say that!
k_sra, Feb 05 2004
  

       or your husband as the case may be.
po, Feb 05 2004
  

       what have you heard about my husband?
k_sra, Feb 05 2004
  

       he says that conceiving as a concept is much overrated
po, Feb 05 2004
  

       <tells wife> Yep, she agrees with me. But she also hates the phrases "make love" or "love making" anyway, so I guess we're a bad example of normal tastes in this arena.
oxen crossing, Feb 05 2004
  

       So, your "cousin's wife" had it right, I guess. Whatever floats your filial boat!
k_sra, Feb 05 2004
  

       That really was my cousin. Well my wife's cousin, to be exact. We used a different strategy that didn't nail it down to the hour, but involved four days of doin it as much as possible, based on my mother-in-law's reccomendation, as she is a nurse in a fertility clinic. All in the family, I guess. See, it really was my cousin, since now it's all out there, I have nothing left to hide.
oxen crossing, Feb 05 2004
  

       //is this privilege only for compulsive breeders ? //   

       norm - I wouldn't say it is for compulsive breeders, more for long-term 'tryers'.   

       oxen crossing - your wife prefers the term 'nail it' to 'make love'?
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 05 2004
  

       I give up.
oxen crossing, Feb 05 2004
  

       I'm sorry, did you say you married your cousin? Doesn't that make your mother in law your aunt?   

       This is really less fun after you've given up.
Worldgineer, Feb 05 2004
  

       "Leave to conceive" ? What do you think the photocopy room is for?! Sheesh - next you'll be wanting to go home at night!
DrCurry, Feb 05 2004
  

       [DrCurry] My boss lets me go home at night... but I am not convinced that is not the best time of day for conception. What could be better than a week off to dedicate yourselves to cover all bases.   

       [kropotkin, lolo] I think some intention would need to be demonstrated to take this leave. I'm not sure how what process would need to be in place to do this tastefully.   

       I am on holidays for three weeks starting today... so who knows, this may not be required. I'll let you know. Or not.
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 05 2004
  

       [UB] You are no doubt right, but sometimes management won't approve my holidays.   

       "Sorry but if you want to have time off to make babies, you'll have to bring a doctor's certificate."
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 05 2004
  

       [UB] I agree. Sometimes those lifestyle choices take some time to change though...   

       Damn. Now I've only got this floppy half croissant to work with. The missus is *not* going to be pleased.
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 06 2004
  

       "Bring Your Spouse To Work Day"
hippo, Feb 06 2004
  

       Once more, I'm forcing myself to sit on a link.
Detly, Feb 06 2004
  

       *sigh*
Detly, Feb 06 2004
  

       'Quick' is my middle name. One of them. It's between 'Danger' and 'Adspace'.
Detly, Feb 06 2004
  

       I think you need somehow to beable to proove, for the less benevolent employers:   

       The couple is not infertile (I know this is a gray zone)   

       The couple is not having sex for fun (at least not exclusively.)   

       Maybe the employee has to wear a non-removable Alfred E. Neuman or Abraham Lincoln mask. Again just for the non-trusting employers or after 2 years of trying.   

       It would still be cheaper (even with massive fraud) than fertility treatments... what with the high prices and the frequency of multiple births etc.
DadManWalking, Feb 08 2004
  

       *Enters through front door* "Honey, I'm home!"
*Back door slams*
^Sees boss outside^ "Hi, chief!
*Startled* 'Oh, hey, yeah, uh, OK, well, good. Check. Later!'
*Wife enters, carrying sheets* ^overenthusiastic^ Hi, honey! Well, hey! I better this in the laundry!...
thumbwax, Feb 08 2004
  

       [DadMan] has hit on a couple of the areas that employers would want demonstrated before agreeing to this leave...   

       and [thumbwax] seems to be suggesting that the boss would want to reduce the amount of leave he needs to grant by sleeping with his employees' wives? Brutal.
Lacus Trasumenus, Feb 08 2004
  

       Perhaps companies should buy back maternity leave time in exchange for a voucher towards fertility treatments, for those in need of such a service. I'm sure it would be an interesting experiment if nothing else.
Macwarrior, Feb 08 2004
  

       You don't get much choice about the time taken to actually have the baby, at least not if you're the female.
hazel, Aug 02 2004
  

       There is definitely a difference between lovemaking and copulating. The former should take hours. The latter should take minutes. The former should never be work, and should never become boring. The latter can become a "chore" pretty quickly. As I'm still childless (and intend to remain childless for some time to come) I haven't had to deal with the latter, but I've worked with someone who has. He loves his wife, but he came to hate the everyday quickies.
Freefall, Aug 02 2004
  

       Heh, funny this one should float back up... right at the time I am able to withdraw my leave request. :)   

       [Z] - I can relate to your friends' plight, although despite three years trying we never quite reached that point...
Lacus Trasumenus, Aug 03 2004
  

       So [Lacus] ....you are up the duff?   

       Or should that be.."You have a croissant in the oven?"   

       Congratulations!   

       Infertility / impaired fertility is a very difficult thing. As I once said to Tom Cruise..'Flip her over Tom, you just aren't in the right place..."
ConsulFlaminicus, Aug 03 2004
  

       *We* are... nearly 12 weeks. I unfortunately have no justification for any increase in my weight.
Lacus Trasumenus, Aug 03 2004
  

       Once you start spending thousands of dollars to get pregnant, something's gone awry. If you've got money to invest in fertility gadgets and clinics and shots and still want paid time off to conceive.. just, adopt, for zaza's sake!
zaza the amazon, Oct 26 2004
  

       My wife and I tried artificial insemination 3 times - no luck. After a few years we gave up, and only then did my lovely daughter decide to appear.
There's a moral there somewhere.
Ling, Oct 27 2004
  
      
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