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Limited List Diet

How to psyche-out the desire to eat
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While some people claim they can eat a 1-ounce treat and gain 5 lbs of weight (in violation of Law of Conservation of Mass in Chemistry), most people gain weight because they eat too much. And, of course, most people eat too much because they simply like the experience of eating.

Well, that can be fixed, as follows:

1) Write down a list of foods, no more than 20 items. Put some favorite junk food on the list, for all I care. Try to make sure, however, that a decent nutritional balance can be obtained from only those food items.

2) Eat all you want, from ONLY the foods on that Limited List.

3) Keep applying Step 2 until you begin to lose weight. This will happen because eventually you will begin to despise the sight of having to eat the same old things AGAIN. So you obviously won't be eating as much. So you will consequently lose weight, right?

4) When you've either lost all the weight you wanted to lose, or quit that Limited List in disgust, the time has come to write down a new list of 20 items. Go back to Step 1.

5) Eventually, every imaginable food will be on the despise-the-sight-of list, and from then on, you will be forcing yourself to eat to survive. You certainly won't be gaining weight because you still like to eat!

heh heh heh....

Vernon, Mar 30 2002

Hackers Diet http://www.fourmilab.ch/hackdiet/
An online diet book by John Walker, founder of AutoDesk. An interesting take on dieting where John claims to have "hacked" the dieting process. (I think I originally found this link through one of Jutta's Web pages). [bristolz, Mar 30 2002, last modified Oct 21 2004]

'IRS Decides Diet Costs May Be Deductible' http://www.washingt...53940-2002Apr2.html
For [brewmaster] [angel, Apr 04 2002, last modified Oct 21 2004]

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       Interesting thought, but I think the main reason most diets don't work is because people tend to sneak food that they're not supposed to, and 'cheat' on the diet.
Pseudonym #3, Mar 30 2002
  

       I'd be interested to meet the person who has successfully eaten their way through every edible substance in the world, and is sick of the lot.
mcscotland, Mar 30 2002
  

       forget the diets, the answer is I am sure to burn off all the calories you consume by exercise. pity I don't practise what I preach.
po, Mar 30 2002
  

       [po]: I think that excercise alone is not enough for most people to control their weight. Exercise and diet together seem the only way to really keep a grip on controlling your metabolism--and your ability to achieve and maintain a given weight.   

       Did you really lose 80 lbs. [bobofthe...]? That's amazing, if true. Maybe you could become a Campbell's Soup spokesperson like that Subway sandwich guy.
bristolz, Mar 30 2002
  

       Fit For Life diet maintains that food separation/combining is the key to weight loss/ health maintenance. Based on logic of starting with juice, working way through foods based on water content > density throughout day. It has a powerful effect on weight "bye-bye", and on energy "Hello!". Downside is the limitations of certain vitamins/minerals in said diet. With strict adherence to FFL diet, longterm shortages of key minerals, etc. would begin to show. That is the downside to having short lists. With reasonable modifications to the diet, it can be extremely healthy.
thumbwax, Mar 30 2002
  

       Congratulations - is this one of the reasons your nic is bobofthefuture?
BTW. a level teaspoon of premium ice cream staves off appetite for @ an hour.
thumbwax, Mar 31 2002
  

       Wow. Yes. Congratulations.
bristolz, Mar 31 2002
  

       its a bit like eating one peanut, thumb.
po, Mar 31 2002
  

       A mate of mine lost over a stone eating only crisps, lager and smoking fags.
mcscotland, Mar 31 2002
  

       fall in love, does it every time
po, Mar 31 2002
  

       [po]: Falling in love makes you eat one peanut?  Such different traditions in Britain.
bristolz, Mar 31 2002
  

       naughty bris. no I meant it is impossible to limit yourself to one peanut. thumb's teaspoon of ice-cream is a similar teaser. The love thing was an afterthought.
po, Mar 31 2002
  

       You want to lose weight? Do one thing: stop eating sugar. Fresh fruits are okay. But eat no more sugar. That includes fruit juice, jam and jelly, ketchup...in addition to all the other obvious sources of sugar. If you are totally steeped in cultural norms that include the ingestion of sugar, this will prove impossible for you, don't even try. But if you can imagine yourself in a future where all the studies finally point to the damage that sugar does, especially to those over 40, then jump in, start today. After a few months, and it will be tough for awhile because your appetite is in a revved-up loop, you will see dramatic changes. Life is better without sugar. Your pancreas will thank you. And don't even think about having a little, that a little sugar is okay. Is a little nicotine okay? A little heroin?
entremanure, Apr 01 2002
  

       Does this include carbohydrates, [entremanure]? Also, is there any real difference between processed and natural sugars when it comes to their effects on the body? I don't need to lose weight but I also don't want to end up with type II diabetes; a risk in my family.
bristolz, Apr 01 2002
  

       Carbohydrates--as in starch? Yes, any starch or sugar that has been removed from the original food source and then re-inserted. I do eat bread and bagels, but keep it to one meal, usually lunch, and whole wheat or multi-grain if possible. I stay away from pasta for the most part. The idea is to select those foods from the grocery that have not been altered or have not been overly processed. Be wary of all the mysterious names for sugar--modified food starch, high-fructose corn syrup--all bad. Bad! Bad!   

       The key thing with fresh fruit is that it is in its natural package. We need sugar, but as naturally packaged. There is some level of re-inserted sugar that tips the inner bozo out of balance and he goes cartwheeling away towards the buffet table. I can get away with just a little of this, and the amount you can tolerate without getting out of balance is for you to discover. But you cannot know what natural living is like until you remove the whizzy substance completely, and live with it under strict control long enough to FEEL the difference--then cautiously add back those convenience foods that have some manufacturing in them.
entremanure, Apr 01 2002
  

       Note: when you go from slightly over 170 lbs to slightly under 93, your hair begins to fall out, and you experience frequent fainting spells when performing strenuous activities such as bending over to put on your socks, it's time to stop the diet thing.   

       I know. So, a year or so later, I have an understandable aversion to dieting of even the most virtuous sort.
jester, Apr 03 2002
  

       Oh, I agree with you wholeheartedly about the diet scene. Too many goofy formulaic diets. My whole point, however, is to go back to eating what humans ate before they became civilized enough to process foods into concentrated residues of various kinds, but most infamously, processed or refined sugar. Can't see any harm in trying to eat what our bodies were designed to process by themselves. And it is especially enjoyable in these times, when all the fresh foods from all over the world are available in unprecedented quantity and quality in developed countries, at least. No, I would not want to go back to boiling acorns and tubers day in and day out, and eating too much meat. The reward for my suggested way of living (I'll not call it a diet because to me, it is a sea-change, not some fad thing that is periodically ignored) is to rediscover the subtle flavor of fresh fruits and vegetables once your taste buds are no longer blasted by too much re-inserted salt and sugar.
entremanure, Apr 03 2002
  

       I agree - much better for health in short, mid and long term, tastier and less expensive.
A wild animal wakes up, has a sip - has some leaves or fruits, whatever their fancy is - or goes on a chase after a vegetable and/or a wildebeest. The only obese wild animals are the ones that dig into a humans garbage.
Iodized Salt is good - other than that - ptooey on processed foods, unless of course, they're Keebler Chocolate Chip Cookies.
thumbwax, Apr 03 2002
  

       Someone just told me that President Bush has introduced tax relief based on clinical obesity. Can anyone confirm this madness?
brewmaster, Apr 04 2002
  

       True. (linky)
angel, Apr 04 2002
  

       I hear you can lose about 40 lbs. in a few hours if you amputate both of your legs; thats something to think about.
ishotpac, Apr 05 2002
  

       Tax break for me if I get fat?  Where's that cheesecake I passed up today?  How much would I have to gain?
bristolz, Apr 05 2002
  

       I say tax the fat, for taking up more space than everyone else. Good incentive to slim down as well.
brewmaster, Apr 19 2002
  
      
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