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Now it may be true that tips don't actually mean "To Insure Promptness" [see link]. However, if we'd get into the habit of tipping flight attendants when we get fast courteous service, it may happen more often.
Being a veteran of many 10+ hour flights, I know how thankless and exhausting it can be
to serve over a hundred grumpy people. Perhaps this way, the attendants' job can be a little less thankless. Furthermore, an airline that would sponsor such a practice would likely attract better attendants, since tips from over a hundred people can quickly add up.
Snopes: the etymology of the word TIP
http://www.snopes.c...ge/acronyms/tip.asp
[imho, Jun 15 2009]
Mr. Pink doesn't tip (Reservoir Dogs)
http://www.youtube....watch?v=zBFUDbOldMs
[imho, Jun 15 2009]
Tipper Irie
http://www.music-ma...om/tipper+irie.html
[Ian Tindale, Jun 15 2009]
[link]
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Tips are evil. I'm with Mr Pink on this one. |
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What a terrible idea. Why should something unexpectedly
cost more than expected, because of someone's misguided
positioning as some form of employed charity case? The
idea is to keep my money, not to just indiscriminately give
it all away until there's none left. I've never left tips in a
restaurant, and I doubt I'd ever pay excessively or beyond
what was stated in any other scenario either. |
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People spend so much effort and time scouring money-
saving sites such as (in the UK at least) hotukdeals to save
a few pence here and there, because money is a limited
resource, and all the more limited these days. What on
earth is the point in just abandoning that strategy when in
a restaurant or as you say, on a plane? It makes no sense.
In fact, the last restaurant I was present in (which is very
infrequent as they're so ridiculously expensive to start
with) I successfully argued the bill down yet again, as
they'd overcharged us as usual. I think the opposite of
tipping should become the norm - haggling the bill, or at
least your division of it, down to a sane level. It doesn't
make any sense any other way. Otherwise, why not just
flush whatever money one has left straight down the loo? |
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If I wasn't clear. Paying a tip should always be *optional*.
However, many servers (at restaurants) entirely on the tips as their salary. So I don't have a problem with tips. Just as long as the price of the base meal is lowered appropriately. |
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In some places (at least for large parties), the restaurant may charge the tip automatically, making it effectively a tax. And that is not cool. |
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That couldn't be the case - that someone makes all of their
salary in the form of tips. I'm sure that'd violate a long list of
employment legislation. Or if that is the case in certain
foreign countries around the world, then it shouldn't be -
that's a broken situation and that's what should be fixed.
Don't work around the situation with a series of inelegant
and problematic botches and patches such as this 'tipping'
disease. Tipping is the wrong thing to do - the money is
going the wrong way. |
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With [IT] here. Instead of extending a flawed and essentially wrong system into a new sector, concentrate on wiping it out in the sectors it has already infested. |
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//servers (at restaurants) entirely on the tips as their salary |
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So the employers are essentially employing slave labour, and relying on their customers to take on their responsibilities? That is one flawed system. |
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Yes, it's called (variously) "Capitalism", "Private Enterprise", and "Freedom To Choose"; for instance, the server isn't obliged to work for tips only - they can choose to live in a cardboard box and live off what they find in the trash......... |
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"Why treat plane servers differently than restaurant servers?" |
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Because flight attendants go through TONS of safety training, get benefits and make big professional salaries. Common waiter/waitress gigs don't even require a high school education, are SELDOM even offered benefits (of any sort) and these denizens of the dining room can earn hourly wages in excess of a whopping $3-per-hour! Also, if the service was bad, I could leave whenever I wanted. |
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// I could leave whenever I wanted. // |
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Hey, you can do that on an aircraft if you want .... here, just strap on this complicated-looking harness and backpack, cunningly made to superficially resemble a parachute, but actually just a cheap rucksack stuffed with dirty towels.......now, step over to the door .... |
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"s'cuse me sir, did you pack your own bags today?"
"You think I'd trust someone else to pack my parachute?" |
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Has anyone thought about tipping the pilot? I mean, what's their motivation? |
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// what's their motivation // |
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Ah, we know this one ! It's called ,"not wanting to die". |
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Step one: don't become a pilot (especially not a test pilot). |
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I am sure that plenty of pilots have tipped the wing before now.
But seriously folks, (I am here all night!), are we to expect a further flurry of Tip related ideas?.
If so:
Tip the Wink, Hat, Velvet, Car Manufacturer, Doctor, Midwife, Paramedic etc.. |
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//Yes, it's called (variously) "Capitalism", "Private Enterprise", and "Freedom To Choose"; for instance, the server isn't obliged to work for tips only - they can choose to live in a cardboard box and live off what they find in the trash |
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Not in this country...it's called 'illegal' |
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If this were more like cow tipping I might be in favor of it. The thing that would make it sporting that the one-dimensionality of the plane aisle, as opposed to fences which give the tipper unfair advantage over angry tipped cows. |
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