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Many women are genuinely unhappy with the size of their mammary articles. In extreme cases this can lead to stress, depression, be a contributing factor in agoraphobia, and so on.
Liposuction takes fatty tissue out of areas where you don't want it. Skin grafts use skin from one part of your body
to patch up another part. Dialysis is probably not the word I'm looking for but unless I'm much mistaken, it's a process that basically shifts material from one place to another.
Now, I know there are things about this that completely won't work but... bear with me for a sec. Imagine you could take fatty tissue for example your thighs and re-locate it to your breasts. No need for dangerous silicone, no need to have those unnatural implants replaced every few years at a cost of x thousand pounds/dollars/whatever.
The problems (before someone else comes up with them...) are thus: Tissue needs time to 'take', otherwise it will not so much be 'rejected' but it will simply rot, i.e. go gangrenous. This is not a very nice thought when we're dealing with boobs, which quite a lot of people find strangely fascinating and attractive. So this is why I mentioned dialysis - I mean there would probably need to be a process where you can gradually add more and more fatty tissue from the place where you didn't want it, to the place where you do want it. This in practice would mean some kind of keyhole surgery system. It also would take a fairly significant length of time. (But people wouldn't notice the change so much since it had happened over a period of time...)
So it might be quite expensive, and you would need a doctor to monitor the tissues and probably to help keep it all in the right shape. But against the major health concerns of having a couple of bags of silicone shoved under your skin, and the continual forced investment in their removal and replacement, I'd buy it. (If I was at all insecure about my own puppies, which I'm not.)
Apologies for the Brit colloquialisms. Someone else can explain.
Same idea.
http://www.halfbake.../Cosmetic_20Surgery
I had some trouble understanding the writer, but apparently this is the same idea. [jutta, May 18 2001]
Latest Fashion Trends
http://www.style.co...le&event=0104JACKIE
Do they? [lummox]
XHTML1.1 Modular
http://www.w3.org/T...31/conformance.html
Nothing to do with mammaries. [lummox, May 18 2001, last modified Oct 21 2004]
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I'll never understand men's apparent fascination with large breasts. They are such inconvenient things, and gravity is so cruel. |
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In any event, isn't this already done with lips etc.? |
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as far as enlargements go, this would be as natural as you can get. In fact, my friend's just been on the phone to tell me they already do it. And she's a medic. |
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UnaBubba: I'd love to argue that point with you, but I can only read the words "Natural breast" before my mind wanders.... |
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Lewisgirl: Dialysis is the process of filtering the accumulated waste products of metabolism from the blood of a patient whose kidneys aren't working properly, using a kidney machine.
PeterSealy: You must not check fashion trends very frequently. The flat-chested thing was out, way out, long ago.
UnaBubba: The fascination is with nicely shaped breasts, not necessarily big ones. It's a beauty thing. Nice, upturned, breasts are simply quite gorgeous. It does take some size but not too much. |
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I'm not an expert on breasts, but i often ike to think (and tell people) that i am. I'm sure there is a natural product that you can buy in the Netherlands to enlarge your...erm...lapell area. It consists of herbsand stuff in the form of a capsule. As far is i know, it can only be made available to you if a you are female. |
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[I'm also an expert on the combustion of cart people] |
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I knew a fellow afflicted with chronic sinusitus, and adipose tissue from his abdomen was used to pack the damaged sinuses (I'm not sure how that was supposed to help, but that was the treatment). Surgery for decorative purposes isn't something I'd bother with, but, well, whatever floats your two wombats in the bush. |
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PeterSealy: Fashion may, this year, prefer flat-chested anorexics (or was it last year?) but the expense of having had enlargements last year pretty much means that you can't very well ditch them just for this season!
mcscotland: we know. This is why we wave our breasts at you if we can't be bothered trying to get an intelligent conversation out of you...
waugs: good point.
lummox: thanks. I know what dialysis is, but it's the general concept of sticking a tube in and moving some material somewhere else that I was trying to illustrate.
Mephista: Yes, apparently the surgeons have already seen and started to fill this gap in the market. Sure, shape is more important than size - and if it worked, this could sort out people with lumpy, mis-shapen breasts or even those that had had a mastectomy, perhaps?
Dog Ed: decorative surgery wasn't the main point - it's for people that feel they need it, not those who want it out of vanity. Wombats? eh?! |
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Since the stated motivation for this idea was the "stress, depression, ...agoraphobia, and so on" arising from a woman's genuine unhappiness with her body shape, wouldn't it be simpler (though perhaps not easier), cheaper, and certainly more healthy (both physiologically and psychologically) to persuade her to seek her happiness in the quality of her character, her achievements, her relationships, etc. (i.e., the things that actually merit value) rather than her chance conformance to a fairly rare body shape? |
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Cosmetic surgery may seem shallow, and rightly so, when you only think of overtanned people in Los Angeles getting their noses bobbed, chins tucked, buts lifted, lips injected and boobs done. But cosmetic surgery can also be an important way to make one happy with one's own body. I think you'll find that many people getting cosmetic surgery are not doing it to match up to fashion magazines but to match their ideal image of themselves. And if you feel this to be shallow, you should extend that feeling to getting tattoos, wearing makeup, coloring one's hair, dressing nicely, exercising and showering regularly. |
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And if you wish to claim that we are all brainwashed into believing that an arbitrary look is the ideal, I would say 1) there's evidence that certain physical characteristics are appealing worldwide, suggesting an evolutionary basis as opposed to a cultural one, and 2) fashion is too mercurial to be monolithic. The very statements "flat-chested women are in" and "large-breasted women are in" are silly, because at any one time you will have women of all descriptions that are universally agreed upon as attractive. (Men too.) |
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Ideally we should all be happy with our character, acheivements, and relationships, but it would be nice to be happy with our physical selves as well. Despite mind-body dualism, we are just as much the meat we're made of as the lofty thoughts we have and virtuous deeds we do. |
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lewisgirl painted herself into a bit of a corner by focusing on breast enlargements, but her idea for body sculpting using the body's own materials is a good one. (Though baked.) |
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thanks for the pep talk but to be absolutely honest this was definitely not an idea born out of physique dissatisfaction. Neither my breasts nor my hips, thighs, bottom, knees, nose, ears (I could go on)... are in any need or want of what I'm suggesting. (was going to put link to own website but remembering vast perv culture on internet). Picking at random... did you suggest pet sex toys because you feel like a hamster at heart and needed some stimulation? no? QED. |
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my god! how many times do I have to tell you guys? IT'S NOT FOR ME!!! It's not for my friend either, it's not because my boyfriend hasn't told me how beautiful I am since last week, it's not because I'm unsure of my sexuality, it's not because I read Cosmo once and felt inferior to all the models in it, it's not it's not it's not. Read the idea properly! I said women who are unhappy i.e. clinically depressed. I thought, but didn't include, the type that PS suggested: post-cancer undergoing restorative surgery. Please believe me, I have great tits!
| lewisgirl,
May 25 2001, last modified Jun 08 2001 |
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Mephista, there are viable reasons for wanting reductions. My wife intends to do just this after this baby is born and weaned. Her normally (US sizing) 42E blew out to a 46FF during the last pregnancy, and had not fully receded before she fell pregnant again 7 months later. |
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This means she carries around approximately 3kg (6.6 lb) of mammary tissue from each shoulder day and night. She is in constant pain from the strain on her shoulders and lower back. Whilst she is a big, strong woman at 5'8" and 70kg (154 lb) normally, she does want to regain something akin to normalcy in her life. |
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PS: I don't understand. And having just learned about this </...> thing, I'll close yours, shall I? (btw is it: If I said you had a beautiful body...?)</obligatory holding it against us comment> |
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PeterSealy: thank you. I already had a chapter of Rods Tiger's book sent to me explaining xml, which I didn't know anything about before. I learn something new on this site every day. Truly the highest concentration of intelligent life I've yet found on the internet. No need for perfect bodies (breast size included) with the intelligence that exists here, I think. |
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In using tags perhaps it would be hackiest of us to include the intended specification (such as <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN"> or ANSI C) so that we all are absolutely clear which format is being used to delineate the tag. Gaah. No, let's just wing it instead. |
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I deprecate your <3.2 Final> and raise you <4.01>. |
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Rods: Damn. Are you sure? Perhaps we need to propose it. <TITS="D-cup">00</TITS> |
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lewisgirl: Quite a ways back in the thread: 'two wombats in the bush' was an effort to Use Bizzare Metaphors. And seriously, I can see that there are psychological and physical reasons for breast surgery. This idea sparked some lovely discussion about personal aesthetics but it's really about surgical technique--and in that light it's certainly worth looking at. |
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Pressurized milk injectors. |
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Fat transfer used to be widely used, but has two main drawbacks. It does have a tendency to form hard lumps, and it can be quickly reabsorbed by the body. |
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Helium, I had made both of those points in a previous life annotation to this idea (see lewis's response - "waugs: good point" - to the imaginary waugsqueke). |
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Nothing beats the real thing(S).!:!:!:! |
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[lewisgirl] I feel your pain regarding trying to explain what
you're intending, and I have to say I agree with what
you're proposing. I would imaging tissue rejection wouldn't
be quite an issue when dealing with moving tissue within
an individuals own body, no ? Especially if tissue is
selected carefully. |
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[UB] when I read your opening comment, you lost every
shred of credibility with me, but having read your
personal story, I understand. "Large" is a relative term. |
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Also, in the interest of correctness, [Lewisgirl] I would
propose that the word "natural" be reconsidered. |
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UnaBubba posted: "I'll never understand men's apparent fascination with large breasts".
Reminds me of a line from That Uncertain Feeling, by Kingsley Amis. The hero (Lewis, I think) is watch two women play tennis:
"He wondered why it was that he liked girls breasts so much? He knew why he liked girls breasts alright... but why did he like them so much?"
(paraphrase from memory) |
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Hello everyone. In re: breast enlargement via moving adipose tissue to breast area. I know second hand of a md who is seriously studying this. As I understand it the major problem at the moment is the extraction from and then the reinsertion of said adipose. There seems to be an extensive bruising and coad facor involved altho i amnot to up on details. It has been over a year since I last visited with this doctors associates so I do not know if the problems were resolved or are still on going....Cheers JINIAN 28 Dec 2003 |
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