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Fiery Fruits 2
This is what I thought FarmerJohn was going to describe | |
Ordinary fruits with a few extra genes added, implanted from jalapeno peppers AND/or other plants that cause mouth-burn.
When used in various culinary creations, such treats as spiced-apple pie never tasted so ... formidable!
About genetically modified plants
http://www.royalsoc...les/document-56.pdf
Current knowledge. [Vernon, Nov 05 2004]
Transgenic crops
http://www.colostat...es/TransgenicCrops/
The very word "transgenic" refers to moving chosen genes around. [Vernon, Nov 05 2004]
Search document for 'spice'
http://www.library....tco/OCR/800/833.txt
Spice genes: http://www.library.ucsf.edu/tobacco/batco/OCR/800/833.txt [longshot9999, Nov 05 2004]
For [brodie]
http://www.halfbake...hopping_20Chillies!
[Worldgineer, Nov 05 2004]
Firemelon
http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Firemelon
An idea by [DesertFox] [Detly, Nov 10 2004]
Grapples
http://www.getfitfo.../grapple_story.html
They already make apples that taste like grapes. [Who Is John Galt, Nov 11 2004]
[link]
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[-] for the idea. [+] for the brevity. :) |
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So I guess your dislike extends to the offspring of FJ's ideas too huh Jutta? nice. |
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This has nothing to do with what I
personally like
or dislike, and you're doing yourself and
others a disfavor by misrepresenting it
that
way. |
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I agree. That was a bit rude, [eth]. |
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[jutta], I was not suggesting any amount of "magic" gene manipulation. They are CURRENTLY taking desired genes from Plant A and putting them into Plant B. Why else COULD there be such a flap about genetically modified foods? |
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The only thing that keeps this idea from being implemented right now is IDENTIFYING the particular genes responsible for spicy-flavor molecules -- and if it hasn't been done already, the way they are mapping out genes these days, it won't be much longer. |
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So, you could delete this for some other reason, but not that one. And regarding simply adding spices, did you know that a fair number of hot spices have anti-bacterial/preservative properties? It's logical to think that getting the spice-molecules all through the fruit (without cooking out the vitamins) as they grow, would be superior to adding them merely to the outside (sometimes too late). Also, what about when you happen to have run out of spices-to-add? Are you SURE it's always the easier thing? GM means the hard part of modifying the plant only needs to be done once. After that, natural propagation of the species will do more than eliminate one simple cooking step -- it will lower the cost of those other hot spices! |
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"The recipe calls for hot peppers, but we're out." |
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"That's OK, we have plenty of spicy grapes, spicy peaches, spicy kiwi fruit...". :) |
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maybe <World> but <jutta> does seem oh so keen to stick the boot in early on certain individuals ideas, when she is strangely absent from others. |
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Good grief, etherman. Why don’t you ask for your money back? |
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I like this idea. In Mexico we already eat fruits with hot chilli powder or ground chile piquín. It would be nice if the fruit came with it already. [+] |
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Vernon - Of course it would be the cigarette companies that are eager to do this first, but the other, more desirable plants, you'd like spicier won't be far behind. See link. |
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Seems like a lot of trouble to replace the ability to simply add a little chili when cooking. |
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What if you don't wanna cook it [Una]?
fuck spicy foods [-] |
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You'll regret it. See link for more info. |
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Spicy foods are good. Admittedly it's an acquired taste. I fishboned this because it's simply unnecessary, in my view. |
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But [DrBobs] rhyme doesn't say it's bad. |
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Ever since, was it [etherman], who posted that Bush rant that I never got a chance to read, there seems to be a lot of tension at the HB. Let’s try not to let the poor judgement of the American people dictate the mood of this site…Hi [Una].
Yes [eth] you were out of line up there several annos.
Genetic engineering has so much potential. Too bad capitalism is pushing it forward at a dangerous rate.
Before word gets out these fruits would be the prop of many rude pranks. |
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If there is tension on the HB it has nothing to do with anything I've posted [JSP], and everything to do with how some bakers are treated by the management. |
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On one hand they wax lyrical about how its amazing that the HB means so much to so many people. Next thing they're e-mailing people telling them to push off because they don't like the way they write. |
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The HB is a great site, but I think it's out growing its creators and I for one have had enough of them not being able to deal with it. So I'm checking out. Thank you all and good luck. |
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to [etherman]:
Always remember to forget |
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The things that made you sad. |
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But never forget to remember |
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The things that made you glad. (from and Irish Blessing) |
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No, [etherman], I wasn't blaming you. I have been following what has been happening to some extent. Did you actually get such an e-mail? Will [etherman] be around to respond to this? :(
Guess you'd appreciate it if we took this to overbaked [Vernon]. |
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[scout] You once decided I was a bad guy when I made some insensitive but humorous remarks in an anno on the deleted Paraplegic Space Station Near the Sun. I was going to apologize or at least explain myself but then the idea was understandably deleted. How were you picturing me then?
They shouldn’t just get over it. They should address the situation at hand and tough it out, if tough is what they need to be. As with any communication, people should be truthful, non-biased, and considerate. If someone is offended that is a problem to be discussed to conclusion.
Criticize but don’t insult. Try to know the emotional stability of the person you are dealing with. Sugar coat if necessary. Show genuine love always.
Any nightmares with a fishbone wielding waugsnome? |
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No [scout]. Happy dreams of floating through the mind-scape on a large bun! |
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... whilst humping some "hottie" who looks like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man? Nice try, Ray. |
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And please [scout] confront me if you feel the need.
Not that it would make close to as much sense, but [Una], when I was much younger, I thought it was "State Puff Marshmallow Man". Hadn't thought about it 'til now, and now I know. |
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The reference relates to "Ghostbusters" |
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I was putting a thought in the heads of dreamers. |
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Yes, I remember the movie and Dan Akroyd's character's connection to the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. |
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Are we still talking about fiery fruits? I think that genetically engineering a plant to produce a non-protein product (like capsacian) is harder than making it produce a protein product (like insulin). The protein can just be translated and that is that. Processing of a non-protein requires a lot of other machinery that needs to be assembled correctly in time and space. |
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Beef flavor is a peptide, I understand. Beefy apples should be possible. |
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"I couldn't help it. It just popped in there..." |
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Yeah, we should be [bungston]. You seem pretty well versed in this subject. |
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