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It's Friday the 23rd October and the residents of the steaming-hot city of Luala Kumpur are preparing to enter a new age; the age of darkness. Workers will make their way home at about 6pm for the last time ever. From henceforth, their day will end at around 6am.
The forward-looking government finally
realised that the day is characterised by extreme heat, frequent tropical storms, and changes in pressure so fast that it causes headaches and fatigue across the tropical city. The night, on the other hand, is cooler and of a more settled climate. At night, it is actually possible to work without expensive air conditioning systems and heavily tinted windows. It is even possible to walk around outside, as one does in a cooler climate. People are able to use their feet rather than their cars for small journeys at night because it is cool enough.
So, following this weekend of adjustment, noon will be in the middle of the night, and midnight when the sun is hottest. Schools and offices will open at what is 8pm to everyone else, people will go home at around 6am, and sleep through the sweltering heat of the day.
Disclosure: This idea is sponsored by Thomas Edison
Google Maps Hack: London with sea-levels +14m
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14 meters seems to be quite a lot. [zen_tom, Oct 12 2009]
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This idea would spark a massive vampire emigration to the
tropics. |
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Evening in the morning in a warm climate would be quite pleasant. |
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Need to consider psychological effects and increased lighting needs. |
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You think the people who live in the tropics haven't thought of
this? People who live there generally do so because enjoy the
sunshine and don't want to sleep through it. If you find the
sunshine and heat so unbearable, move to a more temperate
climate. Or Alaska. |
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[21Q], not all tropics are affluent parts of the Americas. Many are impoverished third world countries where most people have neither means nor resources to make their way to a cooler country. They are there because that is where they were born, and they have been awake during the day all these years because that is how things have always been done. Thus this idea; to transform life for a whole city, and give people the chance to experience their city during its most hospitable state - the night. |
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No. Nights in the tropics are usually not and sticky enough that airconditioning makes sleeping bearable. |
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All of those occupations that require daylight are best performed in daylight. I was born and grew up in the tropics. I don't think you really understand much about the topic, [V^3]. |
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[UB] thanks for your note! Needless to say I am in the tropics as I write this, and have been here for a number of years. Based upon preliminary testing, this idea would work - temperatures are indeed somewhat lower during the night. Once you are asleep, air-conditioning is not required as much as when you are awake; I usually set time for a half hour run to chill things down enough to drop off and rely on a ceiling fan the rest of the night. |
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Don't forget that during the daylight hours, if you sleep, you do not need to open doors at all, and you can blackout your windows. Both mean much lower air conditioning load than having a bright room with sunlight streaming in and people going in and out the door all day. |
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Dude... it's harder for me to sleep when it's hot. I lived in
Okinawa, Japan for most of my teenage years. We only ran the
AC in the evenings when we were all home. Duiring the day, my
siblings and I were at school and my parents worked, so there
was no need to run the AC in the house. We cranked it up at
night to make it cool enough to sleep. With your system,
companies might save money on operating costs, but the
employees would suffer in *increased* household utility bills. |
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[v³] I've lived in the tropics too (well nearly) and sleeping without air-conditioning was tough at night-time, I dread to think what it might be like during the heat of the day - having said that, sometimes, if it really is too hot, all you can do is lie down somewhere in the shade and pass out - it's something the Spanish have managed for a few thousand years, are you suggesting exporting the siesta? |
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I wonder two things; 1) Why so many H/B members have lived in the tropics (does the weather there halfbake the brain?) 2) whether different parts of the tropics have different climates to the extent that what would work here (KL) may not work in other places. |
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When I lived in the tropics (PNG for a few years), I
absolutely loved the hot weather during the day and
also the hot weather during the night. But then, I love
hot weather - I can't stand it when it gets the slightest
bit cold. |
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I'll swap you, [IT]. I got so frigging sick of 35+degC, constant humidity and sweat that I could move to South Georgia and be happy for life. |
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UB... you could join me here in northwestern USA, where it's
currently 20 degrees.... fahrenheit. |
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It's tempting. The temperature here has started to get into the low 30s (85-90 F) each day. This summer is going to be long and stinking hot, by all indications. |
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Yes, lovely warm weather is great, but without some proper seasons to provide some variation, it gets a bit tiresome after a while. I'd like to try living somewhere hot, but without too much humidity - which can feel oppressive sometimes. Sicily might be nice, and I've heard good things about California. |
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My strategy is to continue to reside in London and
merely wait for global warming to come. |
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Not a bad strategy, until sea-levels rise, at which point, Hampstead Heath will become one of the most densely populated islands in the world. |
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A storm has just moved in, dropping the temp to around 20C. It's 11:52pm at the moment. |
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Might be easier to get some sleep now that it's cooled down a bit. |
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It is currently a pleasant 26C at 10pm here in Kuala Lumpur; if I were to venture outside I could do so without breaking into a sweat or having to look for shade. As a matter of fact, I am now settling down to get some work done in the cool of the evening :) |
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It maxed at 15° here. My personal guideline is
that if I have to put clothes on, then the weather's
wrong. |
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The night before last was the coldest on record here since 1979. Next spring I'll have to replace all of the spray handles and hoses.
It is supposed to reach 9 degrees later today but right now we're sitting at a balmy -10. |
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<fondly recalls eight whole days spent in the tropics> |
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2 Fries, which unit of measurement are you going by? Sounds
like Fahrenheit because we're not far from those temps here.
Another 11 degrees down, and we'll be at +9. |
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I am all for it, and I consider myself somewhat of an expert on tropical matters since I enjoy Tropicana products, and frequently apply Hawaiian Tropic balms and ointments which are scented with that product of the tropics, the coconut. |
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vvv, I have several comments; 1) Must I get my hair
cut in a mullet to live there?
2)Have you seen the idea by [futurebird] for a night
shift building? That would be very cool somewhere
amid your idea, I think.3) I love the title. |
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Nope, celsius here.
Everything is frozen solid. |
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[zen tom], I am prepared to pay good money to learn how
you achieved that superscriptivity. Well, OK, I'm not. But
I'm still intriguated. |
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VVV - I am, by bizarre coincidence, just back from KL. I do
think that, over the centuries, the local people would
have adopted this sort of idea if it worked. The fact is,
humans are not nocturnal. Artificial lighting isn't really
suitable in the long run. |
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I thought there were night markets in urban tropical areas: eg Singapore. |
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2 Fries, even with Celsius you're not much colder than here. -10
C = 14 F, and it was down to 20 F here today (which is odd,
because that's what the Weather Channel said it was all night,
yet my dogs' water, in a metal pot in our unheated detached
garage, didn't freeze). Maxed out at about 46 F today, which is
pretty close to 9 C. You got any snow yet? |
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//I am prepared to pay good money// Max - I am maintaining a bestiary of available glyphs on my profile page - whenever something tricky takes my fancy, I go there, peruse for something I like the look of, and do the Ctrl-C/V thing - do I win £5? (There was an idea that sparked it all off, but I can't remember what it was called) |
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