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2D and 3D chladni medical centrifuge

3D wiggle a fluid with new [link] self emerging cymatic cells; UV makes it turn to jello: pluck out 1uM samples from lumen and lumen edge of the new watershapes; 1.6 billion separate things in a 4 cm^2 puck
 
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When you wiggle water with acoustics it takes on novel shapes, and they just discovered more of them (Hedgehog is one)[link]. Ripple top and maybe standing wave and laminar flow might be other familiar examples. A big loop called a hadley cell is another.

I think novel water additives can change the number of hydration shells of molecules, and that could effect the watershapes acoustics can make. It's likely additives with novel acoustics can generate more kinds of standing shapes in water. These might be similar to 2D or 3D "vibrating sand" Chladni shapes.

So, use it in a way analogous to a centrifuge. Just let some particles hang around in a (new library) standing- wave shape in water until the particles mass sort into little heaps, particularly at edges where water cell meets water cell, and at the lumen space between cell edges. The microparticles, like chladni sand then build up with order (and predictability).

Extracting 2D/3D centrifuged stuff: expose the water/additive solution to UV so the water turns to tough jello. Pull out the 4cm jello round, and if an automated sampler has 1 micrometer needle pluck resolution that is a little less than 1.6 billion different sampling points. if the needle sampler has 40 levels of depth possible that is a little less than 64 billion separate grabable chemical/particulate areas.

Similarly if the jello melts with a laser, from cymatics (or "rightsize" indicator dye particles) you can predict all the places with the chemical you want and then zap those areas with a laser to liquefy the jello puck at just those points. To get volumes of stuff just squeeze it like a sponge to get your preferred product out. That's a high throughput separation use.

So there it is, a 2D, 3D Chladni centrifuge where you can actually get the stuff out to further analyze/use it.

Other notes: Another possible use for Chladni 3D and new water shapes mass sortation is use it on petroleum, and use vibration to push particulates to the base, removing sulfur, reducing pollution. The acoustic transducers would do it a little like acoustic zone refining of oil in a container.

beanangel, Jan 02 2021

New shapes of water https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/200
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       Cool. 3D Chladni patterns are called Cymatics.   

       The Abyss's water control.   

       Wouldn't a specific wiggle heavily depend on the complex environment shape? as Chladni patterns depend on the plate used and an orchestra's sound depends on setup and concert hall architecture.
wjt, Jan 03 2021
  

       Well, since it all happens in a centrifuge puck/dish/tube there is an opportunity to model those simple shapes of container extensively.
beanangel, Jan 03 2021
  

       // and new water shapes mass sortation is changing the fluid to petroleum //   

       That's a cool trick. Where does the carbon come from ? Short-chain or long-chain ? Aryl or allyl ?   

       Can it do water into wine, too ?
8th of 7, Jan 03 2021
  

       [8th] I changed it so it makes sense now!
beanangel, Jan 03 2021
  

       um. Okay you can add additives to water to make it respond differently to sound waves, creating different standing waves. You lost me at the part where it's useful for anything.   

       //jello// So the idea is mass creation of the pattern created by the standing wave, by hardening the additive? Like if you have a need for 10 million plastic spheres this is a cheap way to make them?
Voice, Jan 04 2021
  

       // I changed it so it makes sense now! //   

       Jolly good. Now you merely need to revise all your other ideas in the same way...
8th of 7, Jan 04 2021
  

       [Voice], "You lost me at the point where it's useful for anything".. ->I changed the title to Medical Centrifuge.   

       Thank you, I had simply thought a better centrifuge would be obviously useful everywhere people separate things, from a drop of bodily fluid, to an industrial chemical reaction mixture's separate products.
beanangel, Jan 04 2021
  

       But just to be clear: despite the title, this is not a centrifuge - is that right?
hippo, Jan 04 2021
  

       Yes, though like the majority of [beanie] ideas it does appear to go in ever-decreasing circles...
8th of 7, Jan 04 2021
  

       Beany, I'm beginning to understand some of your writing, and that scares me.
Voice, Jan 04 2021
  

       Doing a [beanangel] step. Couldn't this be a molecular computer doing calculations. Set amounts of placed, graded molecules as input flowing under a 3D Chladni shake and a G-curve to produce a distribution of sizes and placements as an output.
wjt, Jan 05 2021
  

       actually, [wjt] that's really cool. there's a phrase "gravitometric computing" but I have not looked that phrase up yet.
beanangel, Jan 05 2021
  

       It's essentially an analog simulation technology, similar to the "circulating liquid" analog economics models, which are fascinating.   

       Before the availability of cheap supercomputing, it was usef by geologists to model the behaviour of dissimilar strata using coloured clays.
8th of 7, Jan 05 2021
  
      
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